From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/31470 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Frank =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FCster?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:35:30 +0200 Message-ID: <86hcxv77l9.fsf@alhambra.kuesterei.ch> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161592566 4579 80.91.229.2 (23 Oct 2006 08:36:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Oct 23 10:36:03 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GbvHo-0000og-CG for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:35:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA051FDE3; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:35:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18794-04; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:35:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666A41FD70; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:35:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667001FDDB for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:35:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18570-03-5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:35:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id E4BEE1FD62 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:35:42 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [84.75.117.212] (helo=localhost) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1GbvHP0ho6-0002qa; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:35:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost.localdomain) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GbvHO-0002d0-I0 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:35:30 +0200 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Attribution: fant X-Ehrenamt: http://www.langau.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:3fc7da83a58b7314ee3070631872032d X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:31470 Archived-At: Hi everybody, this mail has a double purpose. At the end, there's a call for testers of a new (planned) Debian ConTeXt package that would be updated more frequently than now (at least in unstable and testing), where ConTeXt is tied to teTeX's or TeXlive's release cycles. But first, I'd like to talk about = http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation Are some of the people around who wrote this? I found some information in it misleading and in part just wrong (this has already been pointed out two weaks ago by "plink"), and have started to edit the page to change the parts that give us, the Debian TeX maintaines, most headache. But in the lower part, "Steps to finish a first context upgrade", I felt lost. If these steps are really needed, then there's something seriously wrong in Debian's (and probably upstream's) packaging of ConTeXt. Therefore I didn't just change the text to reflect how I think it should work. Instead, we should try to figure out together whether it in fact does not work as it should, and then fix the Debian packages (hopefully still possible for etch). So the specific question I have are: - Is it intended that context formats end up in $TEXMF/web2c/pdfetex/? If yes, why is that so? If not, we should rather find out why it happens and fix it. - Why does it make a difference if the formats are created by fmtutil instead of texexec (Except for the output directory)? Should the upstream packaging be changed so that fmtutil is never used, but texexec, or should fmtutil be fixed to produce the same as texexec? = Finally, here comes Norbert Preining's Call for Testers: Dear all! We =3D Debian TeX maintainers searching for users of the Debian Operating Systems which are also using ConTeXt. Currently Debian etch (testing) and sid (unstable) contains packages for TeX live 2005. But this contains a bit old ConTeXt version, so users are asking us to update ConTeXt. We have prepared a updated ConTeXt package for Debian, based on the latest released version (2006.08.08), and would ask you to help use testing, as we are not experienced in ConTeXt type settings. I checked some simple documents from the ConTeXt Garden, and they worked, but more detailed testing would be nice. If you have interest, please contact us at debian-tex-maint@lists.debian.org or, if you have a bit experience, you can straight away add deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and install context. After this, please tell us our experiences/failures/suggestions. Thanks a lot and all the best Regards, Frank -- = Dr. Frank K=FCster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Z= =FCrich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)