* searchable PDF with MinionPro under mkiv
@ 2011-01-16 23:30 Oliver Heins
2011-01-17 0:37 ` Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
2011-01-17 11:53 ` Florian Wobbe
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From: Oliver Heins @ 2011-01-16 23:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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How can I generate a searchable PDF with mkiv, using a non standard font
like MinionPro?
\definefontfeature [default] [default] [mode=node,script=latn,onum=yes]
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[minionpro]
\starttext
fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890
\stoptext
Using pdftotext, I get this:
fi ff ffi ffl
However, using Adobe Reader this things won't be found. It should read:
fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890
Using latex, one would use \input glyphtounicode.tex \pdfgentounicode=1,
but this doesn't seem to work with context. Context used pdfr-def, but
this seems to be mkii-only.
TIA,
olli
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* Re: searchable PDF with MinionPro under mkiv
2011-01-16 23:30 searchable PDF with MinionPro under mkiv Oliver Heins
@ 2011-01-17 0:37 ` Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
2011-01-17 1:25 ` Oliver Heins
2011-01-17 11:53 ` Florian Wobbe
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From: Li Yanrui (李延瑞) @ 2011-01-17 0:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/1/17 Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org>:
> How can I generate a searchable PDF with mkiv, using a non standard font
> like MinionPro?
>
> \definefontfeature [default] [default] [mode=node,script=latn,onum=yes]
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[minionpro]
>
> \starttext
> fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890
> \stoptext
>
> Using pdftotext, I get this:
>
> fi ff ffi ffl
>
> However, using Adobe Reader this things won't be found. It should read:
>
> fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890
>
> Using latex, one would use \input glyphtounicode.tex \pdfgentounicode=1,
> but this doesn't seem to work with context. Context used pdfr-def, but
> this seems to be mkii-only.
>
Hi Oliver,
Your example works for me with the beta 2011.01.14 and pdftotext-0.16.0.
Which version is your ConTeXt MkIV? Your problem looks like
"http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/052259.html" but that
one has been solved by Taco.
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* Re: searchable PDF with MinionPro under mkiv
2011-01-17 0:37 ` Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
@ 2011-01-17 1:25 ` Oliver Heins
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From: Oliver Heins @ 2011-01-17 1:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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"Li Yanrui (李延瑞)" <liyanrui.m2@gmail.com> writes:
> Your example works for me with the beta 2011.01.14 and
> pdftotext-0.16.0.
>
> Which version is your ConTeXt MkIV? Your problem looks like
> "http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/052259.html" but that
> one has been solved by Taco.
Hi Li,
ConTeXt ver: 2011.01.12 10:20 MKIV fmt: 2011.1.12
This is a quite recent version, however I updated my minimals, so now I
have:
ConTeXt ver: 2011.01.14 14:44 MKIV fmt: 2011.1.17
The result stays the same.
My pdftotext is an older version (0.12.4), but that shouldn't be a
problem. Adobe reader, evince and xpdf are able to find the ligatures,
but not the numbers. okular even fails to find the ligatures, but I
would consider this a bug in okular.
Best regards,
olli
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* Re: searchable PDF with MinionPro under mkiv
2011-01-16 23:30 searchable PDF with MinionPro under mkiv Oliver Heins
2011-01-17 0:37 ` Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
@ 2011-01-17 11:53 ` Florian Wobbe
2011-01-17 13:29 ` Oliver Heins
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From: Florian Wobbe @ 2011-01-17 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> How can I generate a searchable PDF with mkiv, using a non standard font
> like MinionPro?
>
> \definefontfeature [default] [default] [mode=node,script=latn,onum=yes]
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[minionpro]
>
> \starttext
> fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890
> \stoptext
>
> Using pdftotext, I get this:
>
> fi ff ffi ffl
Hi Oliver,
it works for me with the beta 2011.01.12 and 2011.01.14 and poppler-0.14.5/ poppler-0.16.0.
However, it turns out that pdftotext converts to
fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890,
splitting fi ligature while leaving ff, ffi and ffl intact, which is strange.
I did not try with Adobe Reader but the pdf is searchable with Apple Preview and the pasted copy is still intact:
fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890
Florian
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* Re: searchable PDF with MinionPro under mkiv
2011-01-17 11:53 ` Florian Wobbe
@ 2011-01-17 13:29 ` Oliver Heins
2011-01-17 13:53 ` Florian Wobbe
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From: Oliver Heins @ 2011-01-17 13:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Florian,
Florian Wobbe <Florian.Wobbe@awi.de> writes:
> it works for me with the beta 2011.01.12 and 2011.01.14 and
> poppler-0.14.5/ poppler-0.16.0.
>
> However, it turns out that pdftotext converts to
>
> fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890,
>
> splitting fi ligature while leaving ff, ffi and ffl intact, which is
> strange.
>
> I did not try with Adobe Reader but the pdf is searchable with Apple
> Preview and the pasted copy is still intact:
>
> fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890
For me, it still doesn't work. I get oldstyle numbers in the text, and
neither in Adobe Reader nor in okular, evince or xpdf the numbers are
searchable. However, I figured out that it is my version of the font
causing the wrong result.
$ otfinfo -i /usr/local/share/fonts/MinionPro_Regular.otf
Family: Minion Pro
Subfamily: Regular
Full name: Minion Pro
PostScript name: MinionPro-Regular
Version: OTF 1.011;PS 001.000;Core 1.0.27;makeotf.lib1.3.1
Unique ID: 1.011;ADBE;MinionPro-Regular
Designer: Robert Slimbach
Vendor URL: http://www.adobe.com/type/
Trademark: Minion is either a registered trademark or a
trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the
United States and/or other countries.
Copyright: © 2000 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All Rights
Reserved. U.S. Patent Des. 337,604. Other patents
pending.
License URL: http://www.adobe.com/type/legal.html
When using the MinionPro fonts shipped with Adobe reader, I get the same
results as you:
$ otfinfo -i /usr/local/share/fonts/MinionPro-Regular.otf
Family: Minion Pro
Subfamily: Regular
Full name: Minion Pro
PostScript name: MinionPro-Regular
Version: Version 2.068;PS 2.000;hotconv 1.0.57;
makeotf.lib2.0.21895
Unique ID: 2.068;ADBE;MinionPro-Regular
Designer: Robert Slimbach
Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Vendor URL: http://www.adobe.com/type/
Trademark: Minion is either a registered trademark or a
trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the
United States and/or other countries.
Copyright: © 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2002,
2004 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved.
License URL: http://www.adobe.com/type/legal.html
Has this to be consired a bug in the font?
Best regards,
olli
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2011-01-17 13:29 ` Oliver Heins
@ 2011-01-17 13:53 ` Florian Wobbe
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From: Florian Wobbe @ 2011-01-17 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>> However, it turns out that pdftotext converts to
>>
>> fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890,
>>
>> splitting fi ligature while leaving ff, ffi and ffl intact, which is
>> strange.
>>
>> I did not try with Adobe Reader but the pdf is searchable with Apple
>> Preview and the pasted copy is still intact:
>>
>> fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890
>
> For me, it still doesn't work. I get oldstyle numbers in the text, and
> neither in Adobe Reader nor in okular, evince or xpdf the numbers are
> searchable. However, I figured out that it is my version of the font
> causing the wrong result.
You are right! I have not considered that. Depending on the used font, pdftotext expands (some) the ligatures or not. With TeXGyre Pagella for instance there is no ligature expansion at all:
fi ff ffi ffl 1234567890
and with Cambria I get a pdf which is not searchable with Preview:
i ff fi fl 1234567890
Florian
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