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boundary="Apple-Mail=_C2B51416-2AA0-409F-B0E0-31ED0A8DFFEA" --Apple-Mail=_C2B51416-2AA0-409F-B0E0-31ED0A8DFFEA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Otared, Thanks for your time and trouble!. I had found \defineseparatorset[none][][] with the same result: it oppresses the dots. Yes, I want subitems to appear differently in the reference than they = are in the listing: 1. item 1 a subitem=20 b subitem 2. item 2 a subitem b subitem Desired result: See item 1b and 2a. Does anyone else know how to achieve this? Robert > Op 7 feb. 2018, om 14:53 heeft Otared Kavian het = volgende geschreven: >=20 > Hi Robert, >=20 > Again I answered too quickly=E2=80=A6 excuse-me! > If you want to have the subitems appear without the prefix, but = references to them contain the number of the item where they appear, I = don=E2=80=99t know how to do it. > My previous message addresses only the separators between the numbers = of the items and subitems. > Sorry=E2=80=A6 but my belief is that in ConTeXt everything is = possible, even if I don=E2=80=99t know how to do it :-) >=20 > Best regards: OK >=20 >> On 7 Feb 2018, at 12:56, r.ermers@hccnet.nl = wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Otared, >>=20 >> Thanks, the solution works to some extend. It yields the following = output. >>=20 >> 1. item 1 >>=20 >> 1.a. subitem a, reference a >>=20 >> 1.b. item b >>=20 >> 1.b.i. A sub-sub item >>=20 >> 1.b.ii. Another sub-sub item, B 1.c. Item c, reference c >>=20 >> 2. Item 2, reference 2 >>=20 >> See Item 1.b, see also items 2 and 1 above, as well as the sub-sub = item 1.b.ii.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Yet the output I am looking for, and which I had in mkii, is: >> 1. item 1 >>=20 >> a. subitem a, reference a >>=20 >> b. item b >>=20 >> i. A sub-sub item >>=20 >> ii. Another sub-sub item, B 1.c. Item c, reference c >>=20 >> 2. Item 2, reference 2 >>=20 >>=20 >> See Item 1.b / 1b, see also items 2 and 1 above, as well as the = sub-sub item 1.b.ii / 1bii.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Is this possible? >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> Robert >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> Op 7 feb. 2018, om 12:37 heeft Otared Kavian > het volgende geschreven: >>>=20 >>> Hi Robert, >>>=20 >>> I think the issue does not come from the version of Context you are = using but rather from a lack of formatting your itemgroups with the = keyword =C2=AB repeat =C2=BB. >>>=20 >>> I guess what you want to obtain can be achieved with the following = example below. At least here with either versions of Context I have the = output is as expected. >>>=20 >>> Best regards: OK >>>=20 >>> %% begin repeat-subitem.tex >>> \setupitemgroup[itemize][1][n,repeat][width=3D1em] >>> \setupitemgroup[itemize][2][a,repeat][width=3D2em] >>> \setupitemgroup[itemize][3][r][width=3D3em] >>>=20 >>> \starttext=20 >>>=20 >>> \startitemize[n] >>> \item[ref:1] item 1 >>> \startitemize =20 >>> \startitem[ref:a] >>> subitem a, reference a >>> \stopitem >>> \item [ref:b] item b >>> \startitemize >>> \item A sub-sub item >>> \item[ref:subsub-B] Another sub-sub = item, B >>> \stopitemize >>> \startitem[ref:c] >>> Item c, reference c >>> \stopitem >>> \stopitemize >>> \startitem[ref:2] >>> Item 2, reference 2 >>> \stopitem >>>=20 >>> \stopitemize >>> \blank[big] >>>=20 >>> See \in{Item}[ref:b], see also items \in[ref:2] and \in[ref:1] = above, as well as the \in{sub-sub item}[ref:subsub-B]. >>>=20 >>> \stoptext >>> %% end repeat-subitem.tex >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 7 Feb 2018, at 11:46, r.ermers@hccnet.nl = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hi Wolfgang, Otared and others, >>>>=20 >>>> I installed a new standalone: >>>>=20 >>>> mtx-context | main context file: = /Applications/ContextStandalone/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/co= ntext.mkiv >>>> mtx-context | current version: 2018.02.06 18:11 >>>>=20 >>>> However, I do not manage to get it going. The minimal example = underneath gives the following result: >>>> 1. item 1 >>>> a. subitem a, reference a=20 >>>>=20 >>>> b. item b >>>>=20 >>>> c. Item c, reference c >>>>=20 >>>> 2. Item 2, reference 2=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> See Item b, 2, 1 above.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> This should be:=20 >>>>=20 >>>> See Item 1b, 2, 1 above. >>>>=20 >>>> Regards, >>>>=20 >>>> Robert >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> \starttext=20 >>>>=20 >>>> \startitemize[n]\starttext=20 >>>>=20 >>>> \startitemize[n] >>>> \item [ref:1] item 1 >>>> \startitemize[a] >>>> \startitem[ref:a] >>>> subitem a, reference a >>>> \stopitem >>>> \item [ref:b] item b >>>> \startitem[ref:c] >>>> Item c, reference c >>>> \stopitem >>>> \stopitemize >>>> \startitem[ref:2] >>>> Item 2, reference 2 >>>> \stopitem >>>> \stopitemize >>>>=20 >>>> See \in{Item}[ref:b], \in[ref:2], \in[ref:1] above. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> \stoptext >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> Op 7 feb. 2018, om 11:03 heeft Wolfgang Schuster = > het = volgende geschreven: >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> r.ermers@hccnet.nl 7. Februar 2018 um = 10:58 >>>>>> Hi Otared, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Thanks for your response. In mkii this worked flawlessly. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I tried it in mkiv Texlive too (2017.05.15 21:48), but it does = not work. Could this be because I have item [it:ref] rather than = \startitem[it:ref] =E2=80=A6 \stopitem? >>>>>=20 >>>>> It works for me with \item[] and = \startitem[]. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> $ context --version >>>>>=20 >>>>> mtx-context | current version: 2018.02.06 18:11 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Wolfgang >>>>> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >>>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an = entry to the Wiki! >>>>>=20 >>>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context = >>>>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / = http://context.aanhet.net >>>>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ = >>>>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>>>> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >>>>=20 >>>> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an = entry to the Wiki! >>>>=20 >>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context = >>>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / = http://context.aanhet.net >>>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ = >>>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>>> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >>>=20 >>> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an = entry to the Wiki! >>>=20 >>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context = >>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / = http://context.aanhet.net >>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ = >>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >>=20 >> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an = entry to the Wiki! >>=20 >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context = >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / = http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ = >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >=20 > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry = to the Wiki! >=20 > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ --Apple-Mail=_C2B51416-2AA0-409F-B0E0-31ED0A8DFFEA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hi Otared,

Thanks for your time and trouble!.

I had found =  \defineseparatorset[none][][]

with the same result: it oppresses the = dots.


Yes, I want subitems to appear = differently in the reference than they are in the listing:

1. item 1
= a subitem 
b subitem
2. = item 2
a subitem
= b subitem

Desired result:

See item 1b and 2a.

Does anyone else know how to achieve = this?

Robert



Op 7 feb. 2018, om 14:53 heeft = Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Robert,

Again I answered too = quickly=E2=80=A6 excuse-me!
If you want to have the = subitems appear without the prefix, but references to them contain the = number of the item where they appear, I don=E2=80=99t know = how to do it.
My previous message addresses = only the separators between the numbers of the items and = subitems.
Sorry=E2=80=A6 but my belief is that in = ConTeXt everything is possible, even if I don=E2=80=99t know how to do = it :-)

Best = regards: OK

On 7 Feb 2018, at 12:56, r.ermers@hccnet.nl = wrote:

Hi = Otared,

Thanks, = the solution works to some extend. It yields the following = output.

=09 =09 =09

1. = item 1

  1. 1.a.  subitem a, reference a

  2. 1.b.  item b

= 1.b.i. A sub-sub item

1.b.ii. Another sub-sub = item, B 1.c. Item c, reference c

2. Item 2, reference 2

See Item 1.b, see also items 2 and 1 above, as = well as the sub-sub item 1.b.ii. 


Yet the output I am looking for, and which I had in mkii, = is:
=09 =09 =09

1. = item 1

  1. a.  subitem a, reference = a

  2. b.  item b

= i. A sub-sub item

ii. = Another sub-sub item, B 1.c. Item c, reference c

2. Item 2, reference 2


See Item 1.b / 1b, see also items 2 and 1 above, as = well as the sub-sub item 1.b.ii / 1bii. 

=

Is this possible?

Regards,

Robert




Op 7 feb. 2018, om 12:37 heeft Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> het = volgende geschreven:

Hi = Robert,

I think the = issue does not come from the version of Context you are using but rather = from a lack of formatting your itemgroups with the keyword =C2=AB repeat = =C2=BB.

I = guess what you want to obtain can be achieved with the following example = below. At least here with either versions of Context I have the output = is as expected.

Best regards: OK

%% begin repeat-subitem.tex
\setupitemgroup[itemize][1][n,repeat][width=3D1em]
\setupitemgroup[itemize][2][a,repeat][width=3D2em]
\setupitemgroup[itemize][3][r][width=3D3em]

\starttext 

\startitemize[n]
\item[ref:1] item = 1
\startitemize  
= \startitem[ref:a]
= subitem a, reference a
= \stopitem
\item [ref:b] item = b
= \startitemize
\item A = sub-sub item
= \item[ref:subsub-B] Another sub-sub item, B
= \stopitemize
= \startitem[ref:c]
= Item c, reference c
= \stopitem
\stopitemize
= \startitem[ref:2]
= Item 2, reference 2
= \stopitem

\stopitemize
\blank[big]

See \in{Item}[ref:b], = see also items \in[ref:2] and \in[ref:1] above, as well as the = \in{sub-sub item}[ref:subsub-B].

\stoptext
%% = end repeat-subitem.tex



On 7 Feb 2018, at 11:46, r.ermers@hccnet.nl = wrote:

Hi = Wolfgang, Otared and others,

I installed a new standalone:

mtx-context     | main context file: = /Applications/ContextStandalone/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/co= ntext.mkiv
mtx-context     | current version: 2018.02.06 = 18:11

However, I do not manage to get it going. The minimal example = underneath gives the following result:
=09 =09 =09

1. = item 1
a. subitem a, reference a 

b. item = b

c. Item c, reference c

2. Item 2, reference = 2 

=09 =09 =09

See = Item b, 2, 1 above. 

This should be: 

See Item 1b, 2, 1 = above.

Regards,

Robert



\starttext 

\startitemize[n]\starttext 

\startitemize[n]
\item [ref:1] item 1
\startitemize[a]
\startitem[ref:a]
subitem a, reference = a
\stopitem
\item [ref:b] item = b
\startitem[ref:c]
Item c, = reference c
\stopitem
\stopitemize
\startitem[ref:2]
Item 2, reference 2
\stopitem
\stopitemize

See \in{Item}[ref:b], \in[ref:2], \in[ref:1] above.


\stoptext


Op 7 = feb. 2018, om 11:03 heeft Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> het volgende = geschreven:



r.ermers@hccnet.nl
7.=20 Februar 2018 um 10:58
Hi= Otared,

Thanks = for your response. In=20 mkii this worked flawlessly.

I tried it in mkiv Texlive too (2017.05.15 21:48), but it does not work. Could this=20= be because I have item [it:ref] rather than \startitem[it:ref] =E2=80=A6=20= \stopitem?

It works for me with \item[<reference>] and=20 \startitem[<reference>].


$ context --version

mtx-context     | current version: 2018.02.06 = 18:11


Wolfgang
= __________________________________________________________________________= _________
If your question is of interest to others as = well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : = https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
_______________________________________________________________= ____________________

_________________________________________________________= __________________________
If your question is of interest = to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : = https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
_______________________________________________________________= ____________________

___________________________________________________= ________________________________
If your question is of = interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : = https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
_______________________________________________________________= ____________________

_________________________________________________________= __________________________
If your question is of interest = to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : = https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
_______________________________________________________________= ____________________
___________________________________________________= ________________________________
If your question is of = interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : = https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
_______________________________________________________________= ____________________
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