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Argh; mea culpa. Thanks for the very quick reply, Hans. It does work "as ex=
pected" (albeit deprecated)---Tracking down errors, I was misled by an erro=
r immediately following the deprecation warning and associated it with the =
warning, not the subsequent text.

Thanks,
 ---K

Kevin W. Rudd, Ph.D.
CAPT, USN (Ret)

Computer Architecture & Computer Engineering
Advanced Computing Systems (ACS) Research Program
Laboratory for Physical Sciences (LPS)

443-654-7878
kevin@lps.umd.edu<mailto:kevin@lps.umd.edu>

Visiting Research Professor
United States Naval Academy

rudd@usna.edu<mailto:rudd@usna.edu>


On Jul 21, 2021, at 05:48, Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl<mailto:j.hagen@xs4=
all.nl>> wrote:

On 7/21/2021 11:04 AM, Rudd, Kevin wrote:
Revisiting this one---as noted in the thread \, used to work in text mode;
according to the logs it was deprecated and now produces an error
preventing most of my documents from compiling.
Is there solution that restores \, (and friends) for abbreviated spacing in=
 text mode
that doesn't require bulk changes to all of my documents
(and making the source documents hard to type/read)?
I appreciate using the more verbose \thinspace in macros
but the abbreviations have real value in bulk text,
especially when heavily used.
I have many uses throughout my documents where I need a thin space
(such as working with SI units) where it would be very awkward
to use \thinspace everywhere in the source text.
for example, consider a simple example that used to work but no longer does
with the alternatives that I'm aware of:
    32\,MiB--64\,MiB
    32$\,$MiB--64$\,$MiB
    32\thinspace MiB--64\thinspace MiB
The difference in both writeability and readability for these cases is sign=
ificant
afaikt

\starttext
   test\,test
\stoptext

just works (\unit {32 mebibyte}--\unit {64 mebibyte} also works)

Hans


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according to the logs it was deprecated and now produces an error<br class=
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preventing most of my documents from compiling.<br class=3D"">
Is there solution that restores \, (and friends) for abbreviated spacing in=
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that doesn't require bulk changes to all of my documents<br class=3D"">
(and making the source documents hard to type/read)?<br class=3D"">
I appreciate using the more verbose \thinspace in macros<br class=3D"">
but the abbreviations have real value in bulk text,<br class=3D"">
especially when heavily used.<br class=3D"">
I have many uses throughout my documents where I need a thin space<br class=
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&nbsp; &nbsp; 32$\,$MiB--64$\,$MiB<br class=3D"">
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