From: Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Cc: Leah Neukirchen <leah@vuxu.org>, Max Chernoff <mseven@telus.net>
Subject: Re: Suboptimal German hyphenation
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 16:47:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czanc1lf.fsf@vuxu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qrvj9ft.fsf@vuxu.org> (Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context's message of "Thu, 29 Sep 2022 02:44:38 +0200")
Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> writes:
> Max Chernoff via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> writes:
>
>> Hi Leah,
>>
>>> I was typesetting some German text on a narrow page when I discovered
>>> the justification wasn't as good as expected. I think I tracked this
>>> down to differences in hyphenation points, namely, ConTeXt has fewer:
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> \language[de]
>>> \showhyphens{Zusammenhang}
>>> \showhyphens{anderswo}
>>> \showhyphens{anderswoher}
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> This shows
>>> languages > hyphenation > show: Zusam[-||]men[-||]hang
>>> languages > hyphenation > show: anderswo
>>> languages > hyphenation > show: anders[-||]wo[-||]her
>>
>> Babel/ngerman sets left/righthyphenmin to 2/2, but ConTeXt sets those to
>> 3/3 for German. (The English default is 2/3). I don't speak German so I
>> have no idea which is correct, but you can get the same behaviour in
>> ConTeXt with:
>
> Perfect, thanks!
>
> Many prefixes have two letters, so changing the default may be
> reasonable. But there are more experienced German typographers on
> this list who can chime in.
After some research, I found the recommendation in
Forssman, de Jong: Detailtypografie (4. Aufl, 2008, S. 124f.) to
use 2/3 for German justified texts, and 3/4 to 5/5 for ragged text.
They also recommend to never hyphenate words with 5 letters, not sure
that can be encoded.
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Leah Neukirchen <leah@vuxu.org> https://leahneukirchen.org
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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-28 22:24 Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context
2022-09-29 0:17 ` Max Chernoff via ntg-context
2022-09-29 0:44 ` Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context
2022-10-19 14:47 ` Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context [this message]
2022-10-19 18:02 ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
2022-10-31 7:47 ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
2022-09-29 4:10 ` Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context
2022-09-29 4:49 ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
2022-09-29 6:27 ` Arthur Rosendahl via ntg-context
2022-09-29 6:53 ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
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