From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/83514 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Rogers Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Can this layout be done in Context Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:47:06 -0700 Message-ID: <87d2q9xdmt.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20130717114502.4ff412c9@localb.wexfordpress.net> <20130719145138.16c83106@localb.wexfordpress.net> <51E9909B.7030202@web.de> <20130721042206.GD40886@verizon.net> <877ggjp15c.fsf@gmail.com> <20130723011131.GE40886@verizon.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374608862 21162 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2013 19:47:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 19:47:42 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Jul 23 21:47:45 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V1iYi-0000vR-PN for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from blackbox ([75.157.19.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qu10sm43427557pbb.12.2013.07.23.12.47.07 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:47:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130723011131.GE40886@verizon.net> (Russell Urquhart's message of "Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:11:32 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22d; country=US X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0VK3TLbSh - 9c9b1fbd5b34 - 20130723 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:83514 Archived-At: Russell Urquhart writes: > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:19:27PM -0700, David Rogers wrote: >> To summarize: A page header with page number and guide word (the guide >> word showing which chapter of which book of the Bible begins on this >> page), two columns of regular text, "margin notes" *for both columns* >> set in their own special single (very narrow) centre column, and >> footnotes in one single large column, which is permitted to take a lot >> of vertical space on the page when necessary, with all those areas of >> the page separated from each other by thin ruled lines. Correct? > > I know that this example is probably a little extreme, but i love the > layout of thise books, and while i may not want to be able to do > something that has ALL of those layout attributes, i'd be curious as > to what it would take on the Context side. I don't think it's extreme - I just wanted to make sure we didn't miss any of what it contains. I think there would need to be a lot of typing inside of the Bible text itself (for example, needing to manually tag each and every chapter of each book of the Bible), to get the guide-words to display correctly - you definitely wouldn't be able to just book-end the Bible with some code at the beginning and end. I don't know how easy it is to get margin notes from two different text columns to combine into one margin column. The rest of it seems not very challenging from a ConTeXt point of view - footnotes are quite well-supported (though again for both the footnotes and the margin notes there would be considerable hand-work adding the commands for every single note, to make them appear in the right places); and the physical layout of the page is not difficult in itself. The benefit of all that typing, if done with the right kind of planning in mind, would be that later you'd easily be able to change the page size, amount of white space, fonts and font sizes, etc. The disadvantage would be that you would no longer have the "clean, plain" text of the Bible in your ConTeXt file; it would be permanently littered with commands and switches, so it would be much harder to check your textual accuracy. Therefore you would want to be quite sure you have exactly the Bible version you want, with all the spelling corrected and verses and paragraphs the way they ought to be and so on, before you begin your ConTeXt adventure. -- David R ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________