latest context problems

latest context problems

[Berend de Boer]

Hallo Hans,

With the latest context things like:

        \setupbodyfont
                [ber,pos]

produce lots of error messages about missing fonts. I went back to my
previous release.

What has changed?

-- 
Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

Re: latest context problems

[Hans Hagen]

At 01:36 PM 11/16/2001 +0100, Berend de Boer wrote:
>Hallo Hans,
>
>With the latest context things like:
>
>         \setupbodyfont
>                 [ber,pos]
>
>produce lots of error messages about missing fonts. I went back to my
>previous release.

Did you read the cont-sys.rme file?

Because multiple conflicting encoding need to be supported, and because one 
can create instances like slanted or capitalized locally, from now on we 
use the more verbose names

   texnansi-blabla

and alike [see mtexfont.pdf and mfonts.pdf]

This also means that ber does not make much sense now.

Hans
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Re: latest context problems

[Berend de Boer]

Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:

> >With the latest context things like:
> >
> >         \setupbodyfont
> >                 [ber,pos]
> >
> >produce lots of error messages about missing fonts. I went back to my
> >previous release.

> Did you read the cont-sys.rme file?

Yes, but that didn't help at all.

> Because multiple conflicting encoding need to be supported, and
> because one can create instances like slanted or capitalized locally,
> from now on we use the more verbose names
> 
>    texnansi-blabla
> 
> and alike [see mtexfont.pdf and mfonts.pdf]
> 
> This also means that ber does not make much sense now.

But what commands do the trick by using the plain postscript fonts?
For example what should I say for:

\usebodyfont
        [ber,pos,ss,10pt]

-- 
Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

Re: latest context problems

[Hans Hagen]

At 03:15 PM 11/16/2001 +0100, Berend de Boer wrote:

>But what commands do the trick by using the plain postscript fonts?
>For example what should I say for:
>
>\usebodyfont
>         [ber,pos,ss,10pt]

well, \setupbodyfont[ber,pos] should just work, because it loads both the 
typescripts ber and pos

what exactly goes wrong?

Hans
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                                   Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl
                       Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
  tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
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Re: latest context problems

[Berend de Boer]

Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:

> >But what commands do the trick by using the plain postscript fonts?
> >For example what should I say for:
> >
> >\usebodyfont
> >         [ber,pos,ss,10pt]
> 
> well, \setupbodyfont[ber,pos] should just work, because it loads both
> the typescripts ber and pos
> 
> what exactly goes wrong?

My log.

----------
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex
typescript     : [berry] [ec] []
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex
typescript     : [serif] [times] [name,default]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript     : [sans] [helvetica] [name,default]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript     : [mono] [courier] [name,default]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript     : [serif,sans,mono] [default] [size]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript     : [map] [default] []
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-euler.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-logo.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-micropress-informal.map
) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex))kpathsea: Running mktextfm  Times-Roman
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Could not map source abbreviation T for Times-Roman.
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Need to update /usr/share/texmf/fontname/special.map?
mktextfm: Running mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input Times-Roman
This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182 (Web2C 7.3.1)

kpathsea: Running mktexmf  Times-Roman
! I can't find file `Times-Roman'.
<*> ...our; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input Times-Roman

Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
<*> ...our; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input Times-Roman

Transcript written on mfput.log.
mktextfm: `mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input Times-Roman' failed.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

! Font \*12ptrmtf*=Times-Roman at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not fo
und.
\lastfontname ->Times-Roman at \scaledfont 

\donoparsefontspec ... #1\endcsname \lastfontname 
                                                  \relax \the \everyfont \re...

\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#2}\newfontidentifier 
                                                  \doresetrelativefontsize \...

\fontstrategy ...e #1\csname #2#3#4#5#6\endcsname 
                                                  \let \fontstrategy \gobble...
<inserted text> ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize 
                                                  \fontstrategy \autofontsiz...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies 
                                                  \ifskipfontcharacteristics...
...
l.38   [ber,pos]

? 
----------

-- 
Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

Re: latest context problems

[Hans Hagen]

At 05:22 PM 11/16/2001 +0100, Berend de Boer wrote:
>Times-Roman'.

so, it searches for times roman.

maybe you shoudl say: \setupencoding[ec] so that the berrry ec names are loaded

[or \setupencoding[texnansi]; you need such a default in cont-sys.tex]

Hans
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Re: latest context problems

[Berend de Boer]

Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:

> At 05:22 PM 11/16/2001 +0100, Berend de Boer wrote:
> >Times-Roman'.
> 
> so, it searches for times roman.
> 
> maybe you shoudl say: \setupencoding[ec] so that the berrry ec names are loaded
> 
> [or \setupencoding[texnansi]; you need such a default in cont-sys.tex]

Things like that don't help at all.

My test file:

-----------------
% interface=en

\usetypescript [map] [all]

\setupencoding[texnansi]

\setupbodyfont
  [ber,pos]

\starttext

test.

\stoptext
------------------

In the log you see that it complains about original-ams-cmr.map. That
file is located in pdftex/config. kpsewhich cannot found it, i.e:

        # kpsewhich original-ams-cmr.map

returns nothing. Should it? It seems to look in the pdftex/config
directory, but does not find a match.

Lots of other map files do not exist on my system like
texnansi-urw-courier.map. Should they?

texfont.pl doesn't run on my system, complains about unknown tex
root. Is texfont.pl necessary for the plain old postscript fonts?

The font metrics I have on my system are things like:

dellius:/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/adobe/times# ls
ptmb7t.tfm   ptmbi8c.tfm  ptmbo.tfm    ptmrc8t.tfm  ptmro8c.tfm   rptmbi.tfm
ptmb8c.tfm   ptmbi8r.tfm  ptmb.tfm     ptmrc.tfm    ptmro8r.tfm   rptmbo.tfm
ptmb8r.tfm   ptmbi8t.tfm  ptmr7t.tfm   ptmri7t.tfm  ptmro8t.tfm   rptmb.tfm
ptmb8t.tfm   ptmbi.tfm    ptmr8c.tfm   ptmri8c.tfm  ptmro.tfm     rptmri.tfm
ptmbc7t.tfm  ptmbo7t.tfm  ptmr8rn.tfm  ptmri8r.tfm  ptmrr8re.tfm  rptmro.tfm
ptmbc8t.tfm  ptmbo8c.tfm  ptmr8r.tfm   ptmri8t.tfm  ptmrre.tfm    rptmrre.tfm
ptmbc.tfm    ptmbo8r.tfm  ptmr8t.tfm   ptmri.tfm    ptmrrn.tfm    rptmrrn.tfm
ptmbi7t.tfm  ptmbo8t.tfm  ptmrc7t.tfm  ptmro7t.tfm  ptmr.tfm      rptmr.tfm

My log:

------------------------------
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-released-20010417-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.3.1) (format=cont-en 2001.11.16)  17 NOV 2001 09:29
entering extended mode
**&cont-en test.tex
(./test.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2001.11.13  fmt: 2001.11.16  int: english  mes: english

language       : language en is active
system         : cont-new loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems        : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
system (E-TEX) : [line 473] \ifcsname 
)
system         : cont-old loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading        : Context Old Macros
)
system         : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading        : Context File Synonyms
)
system         : cont-sys loaded
(/usr/local/texmf/tex/context/cont-sys.tex
specials       : tex,postscript,rokicki is reset
specials       : loading definition file tpd
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials       : loading definition file fdf
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex <unprotect 3> <protect 3>)
specials       : fdf loaded
)
specials       : fdf,tpd loaded
symbols        : loading symbolset nav
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/symb-nav.tex
pdftex         : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
)
symbols        : loading symbolset eur
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/symb-eur.tex
pdftex         : needs map file: original-adobe-euro.map
)
typescript     : [map] [all] []
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-euler.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-logo.map
pdftex         : needs map file: il2-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-adobe-utopia.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-bit-charter.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-public-antp.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-public-antt.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-urw-bookman.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-urw-courier.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-urw-helvetica.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-urw-palatino.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-urw-times.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-urw-zapfchan.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-adobe-utopia.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-bit-charter.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-public-antp.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-public-antt.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-bookman.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-courier.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-helvetica.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-palatino.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-times.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-zapfchan.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-adobe-utopia.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-bit-charter.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-public-antp.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-public-antt.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-urw-bookman.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-urw-courier.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-urw-helvetica.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-urw-palatino.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-urw-times.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-urw-zapfchan.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-youngryu-px.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-youngryu-tx.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-micropress-informal.map
pdftex         : needs map file: texnansi-bh-lucida.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-bh-lucida.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-bh-lucida.map
) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex))
bodyfont       : 12pt rm is loaded
language       : patterns 2-en-2 2-uk-2 2-de-2 2-fr-2 2-nl-2 loaded
specials       : fdf,tpd loaded
\openout2 = `test.tui'.

system         : test.top loaded
(./test.top) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo)
(./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo)
\openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'.

\openout0 = `mprun.mp'.

\openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'.

\openout0 = `mprun.mp'.

typescript     : [map] [all] []
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex
typescript     : [berry] [ec] []
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex
typescript     : [serif] [times] [name,default]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript     : [sans] [helvetica] [name,default]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript     : [mono] [courier] [name,default]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript     : [serif,sans,mono] [default] [size]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript     : [map] [default] []
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex))
! Font \*12ptrmtf*=Times-Roman at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not fo
und.
\lastfontname ->Times-Roman at \scaledfont 

\donoparsefontspec ... #1\endcsname \lastfontname 
                                                  \relax \the \everyfont \re...

\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#2}\newfontidentifier 
                                                  \doresetrelativefontsize \...

\fontstrategy ...e #1\csname #2#3#4#5#6\endcsname 
                                                  \let \fontstrategy \gobble...
<inserted text> ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize 
                                                  \fontstrategy \autofontsiz...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies 
                                                  \ifskipfontcharacteristics...
...
l.8   [ber,pos]

? x

Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
 1321 strings out of 27086
 20679 string characters out of 318767
 365731 words of memory out of 7000001
 27080 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+45000
 9049 words of font info for 28 fonts, out of 400000 for 1000
 62 hyphenation exceptions out of 10000
 48i,1n,63p,181b,63s stack positions out of 3000i,500n,3000p,50000b,5000s
No pages of output.
------------------------------

-- 
Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

Re: latest context problems

[George N. White III]

On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Berend de Boer wrote:

> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
>
> > At 05:22 PM 11/16/2001 +0100, Berend de Boer wrote:
> > >Times-Roman'.
> >
> > so, it searches for times roman.
> >
> > maybe you shoudl say: \setupencoding[ec] so that the berrry ec names are loaded
> >
> > [or \setupencoding[texnansi]; you need such a default in cont-sys.tex]
>
> Things like that don't help at all.
>
> My test file:
>
> -----------------
> % interface=en
>
> \usetypescript [map] [all]
>
> \setupencoding[texnansi]
>
> \setupbodyfont
>   [ber,pos]
>
> \starttext
>
> test.
>
> \stoptext
> ------------------
>
>
> In the log you see that it complains about original-ams-cmr.map. That
> file is located in pdftex/config. kpsewhich cannot found it, i.e:
>
>         # kpsewhich original-ams-cmr.map
>
> returns nothing. Should it? It seems to look in the pdftex/config
> directory, but does not find a match.

It shouldn't find a match:

$ kpsewhich --show-path=map

will not have the pdftex/config directory, but on my system pdfetex
is able to find the .map files in pdftex/config.  It would be useful
to know what path is used to find these files -- maybe TEXPSHEADERS?

> Lots of other map files do not exist on my system like
> texnansi-urw-courier.map. Should they?

You need to create them using texfont.pl

> texfont.pl doesn't run on my system, complains about unknown tex
> root. Is texfont.pl necessary for the plain old postscript fonts?

I edited texfont.pl to set the fontroot path.

Look at context/data/type-tmf.dat.  I wasn't able to get the
batch mode working, so I ran texfont.pl manually (see my earlier
posting for the ksh script), which led me to find a couple bugs
in texfont.pl.  This will configure your system to use the URW
fonts from ghostscrpt.  One note: my teTeX (from Mandrake 7.1)
had older versions of the URW fonts, so I started my script
by copying (or was it linking) to the current ghostscript fonts.

Now that texfont.pl seems to be working via the command line,
I still can't run the batch file.  I get:

processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/public/antp

and so on for each font collection.  I tried running texfont
from different directories and got the same result.

-- 
George N. White III <gnw3@acm.org> Bedford Institute of Oceanography

Re: latest context problems

[Olaf Weber]

George N White, writes:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Berend de Boer wrote:

>> In the log you see that it complains about original-ams-cmr.map. That
>> file is located in pdftex/config. kpsewhich cannot found it, i.e:
>> 
>> # kpsewhich original-ams-cmr.map
>> 
>> returns nothing. Should it? It seems to look in the pdftex/config
>> directory, but does not find a match.

> It shouldn't find a match:

> $ kpsewhich --show-path=map

> will not have the pdftex/config directory, but on my system pdfetex
> is able to find the .map files in pdftex/config.  It would be useful
> to know what path is used to find these files -- maybe TEXPSHEADERS?

infovore:/home/olaf$ kpsewhich --show-path=.map
.:/home/olaf/texmf/fontname:!!/var/lib/texmf/fontname:!!/usr/local/share/texmf.local/fontname:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/fontname
infovore:/home/olaf$ grep fontname `kpsewhich texmf.cnf`
% See ftp://ftp.tug.org/tex/fontname.tar.gz.
TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname

-- 
Olaf Weber

Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins,
        for they are quick to anger and have no need for subtlety.

Re: latest context problems

[George N. White III]

I've tracked down a few more problems with texexec on SGI Irix:

1.  teTeX (from SGI freeware) had "EC.enc" but not "ec.enc",
so afm2tfm complained about not finding "ec.enc".  This would not be
a problem on systems that don't respect case in filenames.

2.  TEXPSHEADERS is indeed the place to check for map files:

$ kpsewhich --expand-path=\$TEXPSHEADERS

includes the texmf-fonts/pdftex/config directory

3.  There are two places in texfont.pl that set variables
using `kpsewhich -expand-path=\$$variable`.  SGI Irix
needs `kpsewhich -expand-path=\\\$$variable`

4.  texfont.pl doesn't use TEXMFFONTS to get the fontpath.  I added a
line:

if ($installpath eq "") { $installpath = "TEXMFFONTS" }

With these changes, the  context/data/type-tmf.dat batch file
works.

-- 
George N. White III <gnw3@acm.org> Bedford Institute of Oceanography

Re: latest context problems

[Berend de Boer]

"George N. White III" <WhiteG@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca> writes:

> 1.  teTeX (from SGI freeware) had "EC.enc" but not "ec.enc",

On linux it's also EC.enc.

> With these changes, the  context/data/type-tmf.dat batch file
> works.

Can you send me your new file?

-- 
Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

Re: latest context problems

[Berend de Boer]

Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:

> Because multiple conflicting encoding need to be supported, and
> because one can create instances like slanted or capitalized locally,
> from now on we use the more verbose names
> 
>    texnansi-blabla
> 
> and alike [see mtexfont.pdf and mfonts.pdf]
> 
> This also means that ber does not make much sense now.

I get lots of msgs like:

pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-euler.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-logo.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-adobe-utopia.map
pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-bit-charter.map

On my system they're in $TEXMF/pdftex/config.

Does this msg mean that pdftex cannot find the file or is this just
some msg that the thing is found and loaded??

-- 
Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

Re: latest context problems / map explanation

[Hans Hagen]

At 03:46 PM 11/16/2001 +0100, Berend de Boer wrote:
>Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
>
> > Because multiple conflicting encoding need to be supported, and
> > because one can create instances like slanted or capitalized locally,
> > from now on we use the more verbose names
> >
> >    texnansi-blabla
> >
> > and alike [see mtexfont.pdf and mfonts.pdf]
> >
> > This also means that ber does not make much sense now.
>
>I get lots of msgs like:
>
>pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-cmr.map
>pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-euler.map
>pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-logo.map
>pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-adobe-utopia.map
>pdftex         : needs map file: 8r-bit-charter.map
>
>
>On my system they're in $TEXMF/pdftex/config.
>
>Does this msg mean that pdftex cannot find the file or is this just
>some msg that the thing is found and loaded??

no, it's a message that they are not loaded at run time 
(\loadmapfile[...]), since you didn't enable that. The problem is that 
pdftex can only load map files at the first page (i already discussed this 
with thanh and he will look into it); so you can load all mapfiles:

\usetypescript [map] [all]

or selective ones.

Another problem is that if you load the psfonts map file, you get a lot of 
dup messages when maps are loaded again; Actually, i don;t load the big map 
fil ehere, esp since there is potential conflicting stuff in there (pdftex 
consults the map file when embedding files and if you have different fonts 
with the same name but differen tencodings ... you can imagine the mess 
(this is one reason for *not* mentioning the internal fontname in the map 
file).

Hans
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Re: latest context problems

[George N. White III]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Hans Hagen wrote:

> At 01:36 PM 11/16/2001 +0100, Berend de Boer wrote:
> >Hallo Hans,
> >
> >With the latest context things like:
> >
> >         \setupbodyfont
> >                 [ber,pos]
> >
> >produce lots of error messages about missing fonts. I went back to my
> >previous release.

I had the saem experience, but rather than going back, I have been working
with texfont.pl and the below mentioned documents describing the new font
handling.  The examples in showfont.pdf were useful in checking that
things were set up properly.

> Did you read the cont-sys.rme file?
>
> Because multiple conflicting encoding need to be supported, and because one
> can create instances like slanted or capitalized locally, from now on we
> use the more verbose names
>
>    texnansi-blabla
>
> and alike [see mtexfont.pdf and mfonts.pdf]
>
> This also means that ber does not make much sense now.

I still don't feel that I understand the new mechanisms well enough
to make sensible decisions for the following questions (knowing that
the answers differ depending on what fonts you normally use, how much
use you make of LaTeX, etc.):

0.  what options should be enabled in cont-sys.tex?

1.  what should pdftex.map contain?  Clearly this depends on what options
you use from cont-sys.tex.  I want to be able to use pdfelatex, but I
prefer to load map files in each document because it helps me to keep
track of what fonts are used.  My current thinking is that pdftex.map
should consist of just the cm portion of bsr.map with original-ams-logo
.map, etc. loaded via cont-sys.tex.

2.  what fonts should I install using texfont.pl?  For testing, I
have installed the URW fonts using the ber names for the input files
and texnansi encoding.  I created a Times-Roman-Caps font, but to use it
I ended up putting copies of type-syn.tex and type-enc.map in the
document directory.  In type-enc.tex I added the line(s):

  \definefontsynonym [Times-Roman-Caps]
  [\typefaceencoding-utmr8a-capitalized-800] [encoding=\typefaceencoding]

and commented out the line:

%  \definefontsynonym [Times-Roman-Caps]        [t1xsc] [encoding=ec]

In type-syn.tex I added the line:

  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaps]        [Times-Roman-Caps]

inside the "\starttypescript [serif] [times] [name]" block.

In retrospect, replacing the ber names with the actual font names (e.g.,
NimbusRomNo9L-Medi instead of utmb8a) might have been the best approach.
Since the font files are stored under directories with the vendor name,
the fact that the ber names code for vendor seems redundant.  In practice,
however, the ber names are used in type-enc.tex.

Here is how I installed the URW fonts on a unix system with ksh (note
that helvetic might better have been helvetica) with texnansi (the
default) encoding:

$ awk 'NF==3' /usr/freeware/share/texmf/fontname/urw.map > urw.map
$ export d=/usr/people/gwhite/share/ghostscript/fonts
$ for f in avantgar courier palatino zapfchan helvetic \
           symbol zapfding bookman ncntrsbk times ; do
  mkdir $f
  case $f in
  avantgar) ber=uag ;;
  [...]
  esac
  grep ^$ber urw.map > $d/names.map
  cd $f
  # copy the font files (ghostscript names from the 3rd column)
  # to the installation directory (using ber names from 1st column)
  awk -v d=$d '
   {printf("ln -s %s/%s.afm %s.afm\n", d, $3, $1)}' names.map |sh
  awk -v d=$d '
   {printf("ln -s %s/%s.pfb %s.pfb\n", d, $3, $1)}' names.map |sh
  # install fonts into $HOME/texmf-fonts
  texfont --fontroot=$HOME/texmf-fonts --ve=urw \
          --co=$(basename $PWD) --ma --in
  cd -
done

$ cat avantgar/names.map
uagd8a  URWGothicL-Demi     a010015l
uagdo8a URWGothicL-DemiObli a010035l
uagk8a  URWGothicL-Book     a010013l
uagko8a URWGothicL-BookObli a010033l

I added a Times-Roman-Caps using:

$ cd times
$ texfont --fontroot=$HOME/texmf-fonts  --ve=urw \
          --co=$(basename $PWD) --so=. --caps=default utmr8a

Next time I may use names from the 2nd column.

-- 
George N. White III <gnw3@acm.org> Bedford Institute of Oceanography

Re: latest context problems

[Hans Hagen]

At 12:00 PM 11/16/2001 -0400, George N. White III wrote:

>I still don't feel that I understand the new mechanisms well enough
>to make sensible decisions for the following questions (knowing that
>the answers differ depending on what fonts you normally use, how much
>use you make of LaTeX, etc.):
>
>0.  what options should be enabled in cont-sys.tex?

I hope that this will become better when pdftex can load map files at each 
page.

\setupencoding [\s!default=texnansi]

\autoloadmapfilestrue
\preloadmapfile [original-ams-cmr]
\preloadmapfile [original-ams-euler]
\preloadmapfile [original-ams-logo]
\preloadmapfile [il2-ams-cmr]
\preloadmapfile [pl0-ams-cmr]
\usesymbols [nav,mvs] % [eur]

\setupsymbolset [navigation 1]

\setupinteraction [\c!symboolset=navigation 1]

Then, my map file looks like:

map              psclean.map

and this file has no full names and looks like psfonts.map :

Math1 <math1.pfb
Math1-bold <math1-bold.pfb
.....

[ps. I embed all fonts, also times cum suis]

one needs at least one entry in the cfg file, otherwise (alas) pdftex loads 
psfont.map

>1.  what should pdftex.map contain?  Clearly this depends on what options
>you use from cont-sys.tex.  I want to be able to use pdfelatex, but I
>prefer to load map files in each document because it helps me to keep
>track of what fonts are used.  My current thinking is that pdftex.map
>should consist of just the cm portion of bsr.map with original-ams-logo
>.map, etc. loaded via cont-sys.tex.

in that case you may consider dedicated pdftex.cfg files for context and 
latex (you need to edit the texmf.cnf file for that)

>2.  what fonts should I install using texfont.pl?  For testing, I
>have installed the URW fonts using the ber names for the input files
>and texnansi encoding.  I created a Times-Roman-Caps font, but to use it
>I ended up putting copies of type-syn.tex and type-enc.map in the
>document directory.  In type-enc.tex I added the line(s):
>
>   \definefontsynonym [Times-Roman-Caps]
>   [\typefaceencoding-utmr8a-capitalized-800] [encoding=\typefaceencoding]

here i use texnansi, so

   texfont cont-tmf.dat --enc=texnansi

and a dedicated font path texmf-fonts [i hope that this will be defined in 
texmf.cnf in the future] but i may need to bribe the tex live gurus for that.

>and commented out the line:
>
>%  \definefontsynonym [Times-Roman-Caps]        [t1xsc] [encoding=ec]
>
>In type-syn.tex I added the line:
>
>   \definefontsynonym [SerifCaps]        [Times-Roman-Caps]
>
>inside the "\starttypescript [serif] [times] [name]" block.

ok, now that we have this mechanism in place, we can upgrade the typescripts.

Also, a better way for overloading is to have new ones, like 
"mytypescripts.tex" on tex/context/user
and register that one by \usetypescriptfile[mytypescripts] in you 
cont-sys.tex file; for projects, here we put a file typeface.tex in each 
project path.

>In retrospect, replacing the ber names with the actual font names (e.g.,
>NimbusRomNo9L-Medi instead of utmb8a) might have been the best approach.
>Since the font files are stored under directories with the vendor name,
>the fact that the ber names code for vendor seems redundant.  In practice,
>however, the ber names are used in type-enc.tex.

I have considered that but don't know enough of those names -) when we have 
a good working system, we may convince fabrice and sebastian ....

>Here is how I installed the URW fonts on a unix system with ksh (note
>that helvetic might better have been helvetica) with texnansi (the
>default) encoding:

Maybe you should communicate this with Patrick, since he wants to make some 
font tools

Hans
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Re: latest context problems

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi,

>    texfont cont-tmf.dat --enc=texnansi
I think this has to be "type-tmf.dat" since I only found these:
- texmf/context/data/type-tmf.dat
- texmf/context/data/type-buy.dat

> and a dedicated font path texmf-fonts [i hope that this will be defined in
> texmf.cnf in the future] but i may need to bribe the tex live gurus for that.
And Thomas Esser. teTeX and not TeXLive is still the standard for Linux's
TeXs. (He has said that he has more time by now and has released a new
version of the -src, no updated -texmf though:
ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX-beta/)

Tobias

Re[2]: latest context problems

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Friday, November 16, 2001 Hans Hagen wrote:

HH> At 12:00 PM 11/16/2001 -0400, George N. White III wrote:

>>I still don't feel that I understand the new mechanisms well enough
>>to make sensible decisions for the following questions (knowing that
>>the answers differ depending on what fonts you normally use, how much
>>use you make of LaTeX, etc.):
>>
>>0.  what options should be enabled in cont-sys.tex?

HH> I hope that this will become better when pdftex can load map files at each 
HH> page.

You could take advantage of the two pass systems, collecting
needed map files on the first and preloading them on the second.

--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta