* layout problem
@ 2009-02-09 13:51 Antoine Junod
2009-02-09 14:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Antoine Junod @ 2009-02-09 13:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear list,
I've got two layout problems I can't resolve by myself:
* On the left pages, in the left margin, there is a white stripe. I
don't really understand why. I've read on the wiki that when we
describe a layout for a double page layout, the left pages layout is
a mirror of the right ones. And on the right ones, there are no
white stripes...
* My 'printer' (the company that will print the booklet for me, not
sure that the good word) asks me to provide him with a document that
is 2mm larger and 2mm higher that the final one to be sure he can
print precisely to the exact border of the paper. I don't want to
magnify the whole document as it will maybe cut some
information. Any idea on how I could achive that?
Linked is the pdf output. Below is the minimal example used to create
the pdf output.
Thanks a lot for your reply,
-AJ
Here is my setup:
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]
\setuparranging[2UP,rotated]
\setuppagenumbering
[alternative=doublesided]
\definelayout
[default]
[leftmargin=0mm,rightmargin=24mm,
topspace=0mm,backspace=10mm,
width=115mm, height=middle]
\setuplayout[default]
\setupbodyfont[sansserif,10pt]
\enableregime[utf]
\setupcolors[state=start]
\definecolor
[marginblue]
[c=.71,m=.58,y=0,k=.43]
\setupbackgrounds
[text,header,footer]
[rightmargin]
[background=color,backgroundcolor=marginblue]
\starttext
page de titre
\page[yes]
colophon
\page[yes]
\section{Le mot du président}
pouet
\page[yes]
toujours les bêtises d'Alain
\page[yes]
\section{Votre comité}
\stoptext
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* Re: layout problem
2009-02-09 13:51 layout problem Antoine Junod
@ 2009-02-09 14:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-02-09 14:20 ` Antoine Junod
2009-02-09 18:52 ` Antoine Junod
2009-02-10 11:05 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-02-11 14:30 ` Antoine Junod
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-02-09 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Antoine Junod schrieb:
> Dear list,
>
> I've got two layout problems I can't resolve by myself:
>
> * On the left pages, in the left margin, there is a white stripe. I
> don't really understand why. I've read on the wiki that when we
> describe a layout for a double page layout, the left pages layout is
> a mirror of the right ones. And on the right ones, there are no
> white stripes...
A5 paper has not the exactly the half size as A4 paper.
A4 has a height of 297mm and A5 a width of 148mm.
297 - 2 * 148 = 1mm (the gap on the left side).
Wolfgang
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* Re: layout problem
2009-02-09 14:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-02-09 14:20 ` Antoine Junod
2009-02-09 16:40 ` Martin Schröder
2009-02-09 18:52 ` Antoine Junod
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From: Antoine Junod @ 2009-02-09 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Wolfgang :)
Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> writes:
> Antoine Junod schrieb:
>> Dear list,
>> I've got two layout problems I can't resolve by myself:
>> * On the left pages, in the left margin, there is a white stripe. I
>> don't really understand why. I've read on the wiki that when we
>> describe a layout for a double page layout, the left pages layout is
>> a mirror of the right ones. And on the right ones, there are no
>> white stripes...
>
>
> A5 paper has not the exactly the half size as A4 paper.
>
> A4 has a height of 297mm and A5 a width of 148mm.
>
> 297 - 2 * 148 = 1mm (the gap on the left side).
God. I always thought it was exactly one half of A4. Thanks for the
info.
A+
-AJ
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* Re: layout problem
2009-02-09 14:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-02-09 14:20 ` Antoine Junod
@ 2009-02-09 18:52 ` Antoine Junod
2009-02-09 18:58 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Antoine Junod @ 2009-02-09 18:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> writes:
> Antoine Junod schrieb:
>> Dear list,
>> I've got two layout problems I can't resolve by myself:
>> * On the left pages, in the left margin, there is a white stripe. I
>> don't really understand why. I've read on the wiki that when we
>> describe a layout for a double page layout, the left pages layout is
>> a mirror of the right ones. And on the right ones, there are no
>> white stripes...
>
> A5 paper has not the exactly the half size as A4 paper.
>
> A4 has a height of 297mm and A5 a width of 148mm.
>
> 297 - 2 * 148 = 1mm (the gap on the left side).
So, for the record, the only solution I found to center my two A5
pages on the A4 one is to add veroffset=.5mm (ie, half of Wolfgang's
milimeter) to the layout definition.
If anybody has something better, feel free to complete the thread :)
All the best,
-AJ
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* Re: layout problem
2009-02-09 18:52 ` Antoine Junod
@ 2009-02-09 18:58 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-02-09 19:41 ` Antoine Junod
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-02-09 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Antoine Junod schrieb:
> Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Antoine Junod schrieb:
>>> Dear list,
>>> I've got two layout problems I can't resolve by myself:
>>> * On the left pages, in the left margin, there is a white stripe. I
>>> don't really understand why. I've read on the wiki that when we
>>> describe a layout for a double page layout, the left pages layout is
>>> a mirror of the right ones. And on the right ones, there are no
>>> white stripes...
>> A5 paper has not the exactly the half size as A4 paper.
>>
>> A4 has a height of 297mm and A5 a width of 148mm.
>>
>> 297 - 2 * 148 = 1mm (the gap on the left side).
>
> So, for the record, the only solution I found to center my two A5
> pages on the A4 one is to add veroffset=.5mm (ie, half of Wolfgang's
> milimeter) to the layout definition.
>
> If anybody has something better, feel free to complete the thread :)
\setuplayout[location=middle]
\setuplayout[default]
Wolfgang
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* Re: layout problem
2009-02-09 18:58 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-02-09 19:41 ` Antoine Junod
2009-02-09 19:51 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Antoine Junod @ 2009-02-09 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> writes:
> Antoine Junod schrieb:
>> Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Antoine Junod schrieb:
>>>> Dear list,
>>>> I've got two layout problems I can't resolve by myself:
>>>> * On the left pages, in the left margin, there is a white stripe. I
>>>> don't really understand why. I've read on the wiki that when we
>>>> describe a layout for a double page layout, the left pages layout is
>>>> a mirror of the right ones. And on the right ones, there are no
>>>> white stripes...
>>> A5 paper has not the exactly the half size as A4 paper.
>>>
>>> A4 has a height of 297mm and A5 a width of 148mm.
>>>
>>> 297 - 2 * 148 = 1mm (the gap on the left side).
>> So, for the record, the only solution I found to center my two A5
>> pages on the A4 one is to add veroffset=.5mm (ie, half of Wolfgang's
>> milimeter) to the layout definition.
>> If anybody has something better, feel free to complete the thread :)
>
> \setuplayout[location=middle]
> \setuplayout[default]
It works... but if I put location=middle in \definelayout, as I tried,
it does not works. I'm a bit lost, right now :)
A+
-AJ
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* Re: layout problem
2009-02-09 19:41 ` Antoine Junod
@ 2009-02-09 19:51 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-02-09 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Antoine Junod schrieb:
>>> So, for the record, the only solution I found to center my two A5
>>> pages on the A4 one is to add veroffset=.5mm (ie, half of Wolfgang's
>>> milimeter) to the layout definition.
>>> If anybody has something better, feel free to complete the thread :)
>> \setuplayout[location=middle]
>> \setuplayout[default]
>
> It works... but if I put location=middle in \definelayout, as I tried,
> it does not works. I'm a bit lost, right now :)
Not all setting from \setuplayout work also with \definelayout,
e.g. the location keys or the grid option.
Wolfgang
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* Re: layout problem
2009-02-09 13:51 layout problem Antoine Junod
2009-02-09 14:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-02-10 11:05 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-02-11 14:30 ` Antoine Junod
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-02-10 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Antoine Junod schrieb:
> I've got two layout problems I can't resolve by myself:
>
> * My 'printer' (the company that will print the booklet for me, not
> sure that the good word) asks me to provide him with a document that
> is 2mm larger and 2mm higher that the final one to be sure he can
> print precisely to the exact border of the paper. I don't want to
> magnify the whole document as it will maybe cut some
> information. Any idea on how I could achive that?
Not so easy because you can't use backgrounds tricks but it can
be done with modified page dimension.
> Here is my setup:
>
> \setuppapersize[A5][A4]
Make the resulting page 2mm larger on each side.
\definepapersize[A5plus][width=150mm,height=214mm]
\definepapersize[A4plus][width=214mm,height=300mm]
\setuppapersize[A5plus][A4plus]
> \setuparranging[2UP,rotated]
> \setuppagenumbering
> [alternative=doublesided]
> \definelayout
> [default]
> [leftmargin=0mm,rightmargin=24mm,
> topspace=0mm,backspace=10mm,
> width=115mm, height=middle]
\definelayout
[default]
[leftmargin=0mm,
rightmargin=24mm,
top=2mm,
bottom=2mm,
topspace=2mm,
backspace=10mm,
width=115mm,
height=middle]
%\setuplayout[location=middle] % not necessary
> \setuplayout[default]
> \setupbodyfont[sansserif,10pt]
> \enableregime[utf]
> \setupcolors[state=start]
> \definecolor
> [marginblue]
> [c=.71,m=.58,y=0,k=.43]
> \setupbackgrounds
> [text,header,footer]
> [rightmargin]
> [background=color,backgroundcolor=marginblue]
\setupbackgrounds
[top,header,text,footer,bottom]
[rightmargin]
[background=color,backgroundcolor=marginblue]
Wolfgang
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* Re: layout problem
2009-02-09 13:51 layout problem Antoine Junod
2009-02-09 14:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-02-10 11:05 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-02-11 14:30 ` Antoine Junod
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From: Antoine Junod @ 2009-02-11 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear all,
I follow up my own post to answer my own question:
Antoine Junod <toto@tots-ns.net> writes:
[...]
> * My 'printer' (the company that will print the booklet for me, not
> sure that the good word) asks me to provide him with a document that
> is 2mm larger and 2mm higher that the final one to be sure he can
> print precisely to the exact border of the paper. I don't want to
> magnify the whole document as it will maybe cut some
> information. Any idea on how I could achive that?
What I did first has been to define two new paper sizes. The first
one, pca4 is the format I have to send to the printer. The second one
is exactly half size of the first one:
\definepapersize[pca4][width=212mm,height=299mm]
\definepapersize[pca5][width=149.5mm, height=212mm]
Then, I put two pca5 on one pca5:
\setuppapersize[pca5][pca4]
\setuparranging[2UP,rotated]
The only thing I changed to my layout was the outside margin
(rightmargin), to which I added pca5.width minus a5.width (that is
1.5mm).
\definelayout
[default]
[leftmargin=0mm,rightmargin=25.5mm, % instead of 24mm
topspace=0mm,backspace=10mm,
width=115mm,height=middle]
\setuplayout[location=middle]
\setuplayout[default]
This is not a good solution because the 'security' milimeters are part
of the margin (ie, if you center something in the margin, it won't be
still centered after printing / cutting).
So, if anybody has a solution to even 'extend' the borders of a given
size or put graphics on the 'container' (here, pca4), I'm a buyer :)
Thanks to everybody,
-AJ
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