* right-to-left typesetting
@ 2001-08-05 6:34 Efraim Yawitz
2001-08-06 8:54 ` Hans Hagen
2001-09-15 17:11 ` Archive indexing Slawek Zak
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From: Efraim Yawitz @ 2001-08-05 6:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
Does anyone have any experience with right-to-left typesetting with
ConTeXt? etex has primitives \beginR, \endR, \beginL, \endL which are for
this purpose, but how can I use them in ConTeXt? Just as an experiment, I
put some \everypar and \everyhbox statements into an input file and got
some pretty nice results (reversed paragraphs and columns) along with a
lot of error messages about 'missing \endR'. Of course, it's still pretty
crude (page numbers reversed, for example), and I know this is not the way
to do it? Is there a 'way to do it' already implemented, or could the
ConTeXt gurus add something? It doesn't sound like a lot of extra code.
Thanks,
Ephraim Yawitz
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* Re: right-to-left typesetting
2001-08-05 6:34 right-to-left typesetting Efraim Yawitz
@ 2001-08-06 8:54 ` Hans Hagen
2001-08-06 10:48 ` Efraim Yawitz
2001-08-06 11:15 ` Efraim Yawitz
2001-09-15 17:11 ` Archive indexing Slawek Zak
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2001-08-06 8:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
At 09:34 AM 8/5/2001 +0300, Efraim Yawitz wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone have any experience with right-to-left typesetting with
>ConTeXt? etex has primitives \beginR, \endR, \beginL, \endL which are for
>this purpose, but how can I use them in ConTeXt? Just as an experiment, I
>put some \everypar and \everyhbox statements into an input file and got
>some pretty nice results (reversed paragraphs and columns) along with a
>lot of error messages about 'missing \endR'. Of course, it's still pretty
>crude (page numbers reversed, for example), and I know this is not the way
>to do it? Is there a 'way to do it' already implemented, or could the
>ConTeXt gurus add something? It doesn't sound like a lot of extra code.
There are two files that run on top of arabtex,
\setupbodyfont[heb] will give you \starthebrew .. \stophebrew
another way is Omega, but this is not yet stable, is under reconstruction,
etc.
There is a some crude low level awareness of direction, but o have to pop
that into the hebrew handler. [one has for instance to reverse a couple of
things]
With regards to the otr, columns already can go right -> left, and more
will follow; the more precise the demands are written down, the better i
can act upon them,
i have to pick up the chinese / farsi / hebrew thread anyway -)
Hans
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* Re: right-to-left typesetting
2001-08-06 8:54 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2001-08-06 10:48 ` Efraim Yawitz
2001-08-06 11:15 ` Efraim Yawitz
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From: Efraim Yawitz @ 2001-08-06 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
Thanks very much.
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> There are two files that run on top of arabtex,
>
> \setupbodyfont[heb] will give you \starthebrew .. \stophebrew
>
> another way is Omega, but this is not yet stable, is under reconstruction,
> etc.
>
> There is a some crude low level awareness of direction, but o have to pop
> that into the hebrew handler. [one has for instance to reverse a couple of
> things]
I'm not sure what you mean about awareness of direction. As I mentioned, etex already has primitives for this.
>
> With regards to the otr, columns already can go right -> left, and more
> will follow; the more precise the demands are written down, the better i
> can act upon them,
I'll try to think about it.
>
> i have to pick up the chinese / farsi / hebrew thread anyway -)
>
> Hans
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>
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* Re: right-to-left typesetting
2001-08-06 8:54 ` Hans Hagen
2001-08-06 10:48 ` Efraim Yawitz
@ 2001-08-06 11:15 ` Efraim Yawitz
2001-08-06 12:23 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Efraim Yawitz @ 2001-08-06 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Hans Hagen wrote:
> With regards to the otr, columns already can go right -> left
I didn't find this in the options; how do I do it?
>
> Hans
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>
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* Re: right-to-left typesetting
2001-08-06 11:15 ` Efraim Yawitz
@ 2001-08-06 12:23 ` Hans Hagen
2001-08-07 6:24 ` Efraim Yawitz
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2001-08-06 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
At 02:15 PM 8/6/2001 +0300, Efraim Yawitz wrote:
direction=right or left
Hans
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* Re: right-to-left typesetting
2001-08-06 12:23 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2001-08-07 6:24 ` Efraim Yawitz
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From: Efraim Yawitz @ 2001-08-07 6:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Hans Hagen wrote:
> direction=right or left
Thanks, the problem was that I was using an older version of context that
came with teTeX, and didn't have this feature.
Also, I only found by experimenting that the direction I wanted was
'left', i.e., towards the left. I think most Hebrew speakers would call
this 'right', meaning right-to-left, and this is the convention used in
etex's primitives, \beginR, beginL, etc. Don't jump to change this, but I
thought you would be interested.
Thanks again,
Ephraim
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* Archive indexing
2001-08-05 6:34 right-to-left typesetting Efraim Yawitz
2001-08-06 8:54 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2001-09-15 17:11 ` Slawek Zak
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From: Slawek Zak @ 2001-09-15 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
I've found that the reindexing of documents didn't work for recent posts. All
should be back to normal now.
/S
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