* Unicode character for "\,"?
@ 2012-01-15 21:19 Peter Münster
2012-01-15 21:30 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Peter Münster @ 2012-01-15 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
What Unicode character can replace "\,"?
"NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE" is too small:
\starttext
\|\,\| \type{\,}\par
\| \| THIN SPACE (U+2009) (why smaller than \type{\,}?)\par
\| \| NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE (U+202F) (why almost nothing?)\par
\|\| nothing\par
\|~\| \type{~}\par
\| \| NO-BREAK SPACE (U+00A0) (seems ok to me)
\stoptext
TIA for any hints!
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* Re: Unicode character for "\,"?
2012-01-15 21:19 Unicode character for "\,"? Peter Münster
@ 2012-01-15 21:30 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2012-01-15 22:27 ` Peter Münster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2012-01-15 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 15.01.2012 um 22:19 schrieb Peter Münster:
> Hello,
>
> What Unicode character can replace "\,"?
>
> "NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE" is too small:
>
> \starttext
> \|\,\| \type{\,}\par
> \| \| THIN SPACE (U+2009) (why smaller than \type{\,}?)\par
> \| \| NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE (U+202F) (why almost nothing?)\par
> \|\| nothing\par
> \|~\| \type{~}\par
> \| \| NO-BREAK SPACE (U+00A0) (seems ok to me)
> \stoptext
\starttext
\startlines
\|\|
\|\,\|
\|\sixperemspace\|
\stoplines
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: Unicode character for "\,"?
2012-01-15 21:30 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2012-01-15 22:27 ` Peter Münster
2012-01-16 9:15 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2012-01-15 22:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sun, Jan 15 2012, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> \|\sixperemspace\|
No, there is a line break:
\starttext
\hsize1pt
bla\sixperemspace bla
\stoptext
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* Re: Unicode character for "\,"?
2012-01-15 22:27 ` Peter Münster
@ 2012-01-16 9:15 ` Hans Hagen
2012-01-16 18:53 ` Peter Münster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-01-16 9:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 15-1-2012 23:27, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15 2012, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> \|\sixperemspace\|
>
> No, there is a line break:
>
> \starttext
> \hsize1pt
> bla\sixperemspace bla
> \stoptext
well, it's a space and therefore a valid breakpoint (i.e. it's not
\sixperemnonbreakspace)
Hans
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* Re: Unicode character for "\,"?
2012-01-16 9:15 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-01-16 18:53 ` Peter Münster
2012-01-16 21:03 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2012-01-16 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Jan 16 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:
> well, it's a space and therefore a valid breakpoint (i.e. it's not
> \sixperemnonbreakspace)
So the answer is "no, there is no unicode equivalent for \," ?
What about NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE ? About 1 or 2 years ago, it was the
same width as \, but now it's much smaller. Is the actual version the
correct one?
Comment from http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/202f/ :
"a narrow form of a no-break space, typically the width of a thin space
or a mid space"
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* Re: Unicode character for "\,"?
2012-01-16 18:53 ` Peter Münster
@ 2012-01-16 21:03 ` Hans Hagen
2012-01-16 22:08 ` Peter Münster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-01-16 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 16-1-2012 19:53, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> well, it's a space and therefore a valid breakpoint (i.e. it's not
>> \sixperemnonbreakspace)
>
> So the answer is "no, there is no unicode equivalent for \," ?
>
> What about NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE ? About 1 or 2 years ago, it was the
> same width as \, but now it's much smaller. Is the actual version the
> correct one?
>
> Comment from http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/202f/ :
> "a narrow form of a no-break space, typically the width of a thin space
> or a mid space"
all those lovely incompatible names ... anyhow, so you want em/8 instead
of space/8 ..
Hans
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* Re: Unicode character for "\,"?
2012-01-16 21:03 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-01-16 22:08 ` Peter Münster
2012-01-16 22:40 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2012-01-16 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Jan 16 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:
> all those lovely incompatible names ... anyhow, so you want em/8 instead of
> space/8 ..
It would be nice. But probably, you had a reason to change it to
space/8, didn't you?
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* Re: Unicode character for "\,"?
2012-01-16 22:08 ` Peter Münster
@ 2012-01-16 22:40 ` Hans Hagen
2012-01-16 23:33 ` Peter Münster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-01-16 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 16-1-2012 23:08, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> all those lovely incompatible names ... anyhow, so you want em/8 instead of
>> space/8 ..
>
> It would be nice. But probably, you had a reason to change it to
> space/8, didn't you?
Not really ... some time ago the code dealing with those spaces was
adapted to deal with tagging and at that point some decisions were made
(after all, these things were not available in mkii so untill code gets
cleaned up and stabelizes antything can happen).
Hans
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* Re: Unicode character for "\,"?
2012-01-16 22:40 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-01-16 23:33 ` Peter Münster
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From: Peter Münster @ 2012-01-16 23:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Jan 16 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Not really ... some time ago the code dealing with those spaces was adapted to
> deal with tagging and at that point some decisions were made (after all,
> these things were not available in mkii so untill code gets cleaned up and
> stabelizes antything can happen).
No problem. I can continue using "\,", the source looks just a bit
uglier... ;)
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