From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/8717 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ed L Cashin Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re[2]: Perl is evil, Smalltalk, Eiffel, Ruby, Python is the way to go! Date: 19 Jul 2002 11:27:45 -0400 Sender: owner-ntg-context@let.uu.nl Message-ID: <87sn2f20we.fsf@cs.uga.edu> References: <87znx0pmrt.fsf@gundla.ch> <5.1.0.14.1.20020708183035.02d2a048@server-1> <2012458027.20020709014025@iol.it> <87adp1md7d.fsf_-_@gundla.ch> <472897825.20020709233947@iol.it> <87znx0pmrt.fsf@gundla.ch> <5.1.0.14.1.20020710102116.0417a280@server-1> <87y9c92kqw.fsf@cs.uga.edu> <20020718184644.GA1117@ruhrau.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035399106 30007 80.91.224.250 (23 Oct 2002 18:51:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-To: johannes.huesing@ruhrau.de In-Reply-To: <20020718184644.GA1117@ruhrau.de> Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:8717 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:8717 Johannes Hüsing writes: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 10:06:47AM -0400, Ed L Cashin wrote: > [...] > > It would be interesting to design a new typesetting language. :) It > > should have namespaces, lexical scoping, functions/procedures, > > objects, and labeled loop constructs like perl (and Java, IIRC). > > > > Wasn't that part of the idea of NTS? I don't know. When I saw a demo, they were emphasising its ability to act like tex. The example they showed was a run where the NTS system processed the source for the TeXbook. It was orders of magnitude slower than Knuth's tex, so some people did not seem impressed. The website at nts.tug.org states that: Since NTS V0 is intended to be an exact re-implementation of TeX, some have suggested (only partially in jest) that it be renamed "OTS" ("Old Typesetting System"); certainly this alternative name is a more accurate description for the first release, but it does little to emphasise the extensible nature of NTS; for that reason, the project will continue to be called NTS, and it is hoped that Karel will also be in a position to demonstrate this extensibility by leading an "Extending NTS" workshop at TUG 2000. ... so it doesn't sound as ambitious as what I was suggesting -- a new language that had all those features right in it. NTS seems to be the old system but with greater possibilities for extension. -- --Ed L Cashin | PGP public key: ecashin@uga.edu | http://noserose.net/e/pgp/