From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/83527 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Rogers Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Opening quotes problem with context. Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:58:53 -0700 Message-ID: <87zjtct36a.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20130722114031.0304d899@localb.wexfordpress.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374677965 27593 80.91.229.3 (24 Jul 2013 14:59:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:59:25 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jul 24 16:59:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V20XI-0003tU-Js for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:59:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29ECC101F3; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:59:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rkhW6FesBmPr; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:58:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADAC101E8; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:58:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60236101E8 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:58:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id BglYaQdW9ZK8 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:58:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter5-til.mf.surf.net (filter5-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.221]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D58B101E7 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:58:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-pb0-x22b.google.com (mail-pb0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22b]) by filter5-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r6OEwv1C008049 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:58:58 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f43.google.com with SMTP id md12so9766218pbc.30 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:58:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=vJfMzHk7WALxkiR45n6xffTdNe6OoplbXPUW10vYrW4=; b=IPDcbLI1KWKgFHCxnoY81n06R5VkCRo9QGVU6uBan5muk3yKULeV0S6m+pFtX16h4a KD2Z0/wBngzGdmY49GjdPWTGlTtznH2UHEykXSyVArh2zvqOW3wJ4SX7lWkiX5hwHKHP xTOfsW8sJttbcd3+Eb0gu+BzQAgTzvaOfGcVsJ1i5GnK/CZPKpDOyQEW7RLC8vu7ZZQz vO7lOMqiE1FsdZdMKa8fq03/oppi5tl0pZV8isROoePxDXxJR3LJFGRsZt+KycL6sN4J BY3SuPMzGD1je3E3o5PK98RL2QgYc+60CajyAmxc15HOoa/mefs72eRCWJ9HqPuQgywF DDaQ== X-Received: by 10.68.225.232 with SMTP id rn8mr43197134pbc.70.1374677936655; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from blackbox ([75.157.19.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id zv11sm52041447pab.3.2013.07.24.07.58.54 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:58:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130722114031.0304d899@localb.wexfordpress.net> (john Culleton's message of "Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:40:31 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22b; country=US X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0WK4eWVee - 72b92ee03bb2 - 20130724 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:83527 Archived-At: john Culleton writes: > Did a fresh install of context etc. from the context site. I used this > test file: > ------------------------------- > \starttext > ``Hello world.'' And ``Goodbye world.'' > \stoptext > %\bye > ----------------------------------------- > The resulting pdf shows two left tick marks for opening quotes but the > closing quotes are proper curly quotes. > > If I modify the file as follows: > ------------------------------- > %\starttext > ``Hello world.'' And ``Goodbye world.'' > %\stoptext > \bye > --------------------------- > and use luatex or pdftex from texlive the quotes are OK. > > I got similar results from context in texlive 2012 and texlive 2013. > > What is the proper code for opening quotes in context? The "truly proper" code is \quotation{Hello world.} - that style is guaranteed to work. (And, for instance, if you change context's language to French, then \quotation{Bonjour monde.} will automatically give you the correct style of French quotation marks without having to look up how to type them; likewise for other languages.) I think the problem of the two left tick marks may come from web browser copy-and-paste. Special marks, especially the quotation marks, apostrophes, and tick marks, are often mangled when converting to and from HTML. When copying any program's code from a web page, watch out for those marks, they've probably been mis-transcribed by the too-clever HTML rendering. -- David R ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________