[NTG-context] breakpoints in verbatim text

[NTG-context] breakpoints in verbatim text

[Alex Leray]

Hi,

I'd like to break lines in verbatim on certain characters like "/".

I can do it for normal texte, but not inside typing environment.

Is there a way to achieve this?

Below is my test code.

Thanks,

Alex

* * *

\setuppapersize[A7]
\setbreakpoints[compound]

\starttext
1. This is the truth: waste-not-want-not \par
2. This is the truth: waste/not/want/not \par
3. This is the truth: waste+not+want+not \par
4. This is the truth: waste(not(want(not)) \par
5. This is the truth: ((waste)not)want)not

\starttyping[lines=yes]
1. Thisisthetruth:waste-not-want-not \par
2. Thisisthetruth:waste/not/want/not \par
3. Thisisthetruth:waste+not+want+not \par
4. Thisisthetruth:waste(not(want(not)) \par
5. Thisisthetruth:((waste)not)want)not
\stoptyping
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: breakpoints in verbatim text

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/17/2023 2:41 PM, Alex Leray wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to break lines in verbatim on certain characters like "/".
> 
> I can do it for normal texte, but not inside typing environment.
> 
> Is there a way to achieve this?

For now do this:

   \appendtoks
      \usesetupsparameter\typingparameter
   \to \everyinitializeverbatim

and then

   \startsetups typing:mine
       \setbreakpoints[compound]
   \stopsetups

with

   \starttyping[lines=yes,setups=typing:mine]

I need Wolfgang to check it for possible interferences.

Hans


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[NTG-context] Re: breakpoints in verbatim text

[Alex Leray]

Thanks,

Unfortunatly, it doesn't work (no difference in output with or without 
the `setups` parameter)

I'm not up-to-date, Should I update? Here is my version.

mtx-context     | current version: 2023.03.10 12:15

Many thanks

Le 17/08/23 à 16:32, Hans Hagen a écrit :
> On 8/17/2023 2:41 PM, Alex Leray wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to break lines in verbatim on certain characters like "/".
>>
>> I can do it for normal texte, but not inside typing environment.
>>
>> Is there a way to achieve this?
> 
> For now do this:
> 
>    \appendtoks
>       \usesetupsparameter\typingparameter
>    \to \everyinitializeverbatim
> 
> and then
> 
>    \startsetups typing:mine
>        \setbreakpoints[compound]
>    \stopsetups
> 
> with
> 
>    \starttyping[lines=yes,setups=typing:mine]
> 
> I need Wolfgang to check it for possible interferences.
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
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[NTG-context] Re: breakpoints in verbatim text

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Alex Leray schrieb am 17.08.2023 um 14:41:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to break lines in verbatim on certain characters like "/".
>
> I can do it for normal texte, but not inside typing environment.

Do you need the verbatim environment or is the lines-environment sufficient.

\setuppapersize[A7]
\setbreakpoints[compound]

\starttext

\startlines[style=mono]
1. Thisisthetruth:waste-not-want-not
2. Thisisthetruth:waste/not/want/not
3. Thisisthetruth:waste+not+want+not
4. Thisisthetruth:waste(not(want(not))
5. Thisisthetruth(waste)not)want)not
\stoplines

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: breakpoints in verbatim text

[Alex Leray]

Hi,

I think I need to use verbatim because I'm typesetting source code and I 
need it to be as verbatim as possible.

For the moment, I'm manually inserting zero-width spaces... seems to do 
the trick, although it's becoming unreadable :P

Thanks,

Alex


Le 17/08/23 à 17:22, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :
> Alex Leray schrieb am 17.08.2023 um 14:41:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to break lines in verbatim on certain characters like "/".
>>
>> I can do it for normal texte, but not inside typing environment.
> 
> Do you need the verbatim environment or is the lines-environment 
> sufficient.
> 
> \setuppapersize[A7]
> \setbreakpoints[compound]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startlines[style=mono]
> 1. Thisisthetruth:waste-not-want-not
> 2. Thisisthetruth:waste/not/want/not
> 3. Thisisthetruth:waste+not+want+not
> 4. Thisisthetruth:waste(not(want(not))
> 5. Thisisthetruth(waste)not)want)not
> \stoplines
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
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[NTG-context] Re: breakpoints in verbatim text

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Alex Leray schrieb am 17.08.2023 um 17:59:
> Hi,
>
> I think I need to use verbatim because I'm typesetting source code and 
> I need it to be as verbatim as possible.
>
> For the moment, I'm manually inserting zero-width spaces... seems to 
> do the trick, although it's becoming unreadable :P

Which language do you have to typeset, maybe the scite module already 
supports it.
A real example rather than dummy text can be of help to give a proper 
solution.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: breakpoints in verbatim text

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/18/2023 1:02 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Alex Leray schrieb am 18.08.2023 um 12:19:
>> Hello Wolfgang,
>>
>> Le 17/08/23 à 18:56, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :
>>> Is it correct all your listing are HTML code and you need line breaks 
>>> for the entries of the href attributes?
>>
>> The content is from a dutch net-artist artist from the early days of 
>> the public web, and is often (volontary) mixing different natural nd 
>> machine langages. Not all snippets are HTML, but most of them are some 
>> sort of HTML pidgin.
> 
> 
> I see, the typing environment is in this case the safest option to 
> ensure special characters like % remain i the output.
> 
> For simple text without special characters you could have switched to 
> the lines environment and use a monospaced but
> I wouldn't trust it here (even when you enable \asciimode).
> 
> 
>>> Syntax highlighting of the code listing isn't needed in your case.
>>
>> No, I don't need syntax highlighting
>>
>> My problem is solved using manual zero width spaces at the moment but 
>> I'd be interested to find a more structural solution.
>>
>> Checking at the Context source code I would have thought that 
>> breakpoints were possible withing typing env. See
>>
>> https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkiv/buff-ver.mkiv?search=typing#l51
>>
>> It would be interesting to document on the wiki that behavior, which I 
>> can do later when my understanding is better.
> 
> The typing environment disables the breakpoint (and a few other) 
> mechanism because they can lead to undesired
> side effects but Hans suggestion to provide a hook which can be used to 
> re-enable the feature, e.g.
> 
>      \startsetups [typing:mine]
>          \setbreakpoints[compound]
>      \stopsetups
> 
>      \setuptyping [CUSTOM] [setups=typing:mine]
> 
> The only flaw I can see in the suggestion is the use of the 
> \everyinitializeverbatim register because it is used for
> inline and display verbatim. A better place to add the option is 
> \buff_verbatim_initialize_typing_two for \starttyping
> and \buff_verbatim_initialize_type_two for \type.

ok

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