Re: ConTeXt minimal on chromebook

Re: ConTeXt minimal on chromebook

[John Kitzmiller]

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On Feb 17, 2014, at 5:51 PM, ntg-context-request@ntg.nl wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:23 PM, John Kitzmiller wrote:
>> I attempted to put ConTeXt minimal on Samsung chromebook and got:
>>  Error: your system "Linux armv7l" is not supported yet.
>>  Please report to the ConTeXt mailing-list (ntg-context@ntg.nl)
>> 
>> This is not a request to support the armv7l (unless it is trivial) but,
>> 
>> is it futile to attempt installing minimal on a chromebook with Intel ATOM N570, or Intel Celeron-867? (If I had them at hand I would try.)
> 
> It is trivial provided that someone is willing to compile the latest
> LuaTeX. Well, there might be some issues with different flavours of
> arm architectures (I'm not sure how to distinguish one from another).
> 
> Can you please try if these binaries work (there are two arm binaries,
> I'm not sure which ones are the proper ones)?
> - http://tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Master/bin/
> Or if you are able to install TeX Live?
> - http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
> 
> If so, I'll add the necessary architecture to the list.


I installed Ubuntu on the chromebook using crouton (http://lifehacker.com/how-to-install-linux-on-a-chromebook-and-unlock-its-ful-509039343) and then apt-get context which gave a texlive version for armhf; also got vim and evince. From terminal under Ubuntu, which runs on top of ChromeOS, context foo.tex compiled a Hello World and a \startMPpage figure. That much worked.

This made me think the link for armhf-linux above might work without Ubuntu, but I am not skilled enough to use the trunk/Master--I got a text sym-link and a 7.3mb luatex file that I can not yet make executable (command not found.)

The texlive/acquire-netinstall results in 'Permission denied' even with sudo on the chromebook.

I have not yet tried Martin's approach with the .deb files but wanted to report back and thank you both for your suggestions.

John



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Re: ConTeXt minimal on chromebook

[Bill Meahan]

On 2/18/2014 12:21 AM, Martin maaca Rehula wrote:
> ChromeOS is Linux-based operating system. I don't know, what exactly is different compared to "normal" Linux distribution. You should be able to execute Linux binaries there.
>
> .deb packages are not any ultra proprietary, extra DRM-protected things. It is just .tar.gz archive enclosed in the ar archive. So, you can easily extract files from the .deb package, copy them to your chromebook and execute them. I don't expect dependency on too many libraries.
>
> Martin
> _

Actually, ChromeOS only uses the Linux /kernel/ but is not a Linux 
distribution in any way, shape or form.

  No shell, no utilities, no package manager ala apt-get. It boots 
directly into Chrome and that is the only application that is permitted 
to run on it. Any "apps" must be written as Chrome extensions and have 
very limited ability to run directly on the kernel. Google intends 
everything to be written in HTML5/Javascript.

I won't even mention how Google reads almost everything to serve you 
"better ads."

-- 
Bill Meahan, Westland, Michigan

"For every problem there is a solution which is simple, clean
   -- and wrong." H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
  
  

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Re: ConTeXt minimal on chromebook

[Martin maaca Rehula]

17. úno (Pondělí) v 23:49:47 CET 2014, John Kitzmiller <kitz@inradius.net> napsal(a):
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Martin maaca Rehula wrote:
> 
> > I was using ConTeXt (ages ago) on my Nokia N800. There were/are pre-compiled Debian packages for arm architecture. Try looking this direction.
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
> > 21:23:53 CET 2014, John Kitzmiller <kitz@inradius.net> napsal(a):
> >> I attempted to put ConTeXt minimal on Samsung chromebook and got:
> >>  Error: your system "Linux armv7l" is not supported yet.
> >>  Please report to the ConTeXt mailing-list (ntg-context@ntg.nl)
> >> 
> >> This is not a request to support the armv7l (unless it is trivial) but,
> >> 
> >> is it futile to attempt installing minimal on a chromebook with Intel ATOM N570, or Intel Celeron-867? (If I had them at hand I would try.)
> 
> Thank you Martin. I was not clear. I can run Debian and other *nix flavors on the chromebook by various methods and then have ConTeXt, but I would rather not 'dual boot.'
> 
> What I am after is to have ConTeXt run 'natively,' if that is the right word/concept, on a chromebook core platform. From the chromebook shell I know I can run vim to edit files but I would like to compile them. (Viewing will be the next chapter!)
>

ChromeOS is Linux-based operating system. I don't know, what exactly is different compared to "normal" Linux distribution. You should be able to execute Linux binaries there.

.deb packages are not any ultra proprietary, extra DRM-protected things. It is just .tar.gz archive enclosed in the ar archive. So, you can easily extract files from the .deb package, copy them to your chromebook and execute them. I don't expect dependency on too many libraries.

Martin 
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Re: ConTeXt minimal on chromebook

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:49 PM, John Kitzmiller wrote:
>
> Thank you Martin. I was not clear. I can run Debian and other *nix flavors
> on the chromebook by various methods and then have ConTeXt, but I would
> rather not 'dual boot.'
>
> What I am after is to have ConTeXt run 'natively,'

If you want to run ConTeXt "natively" on a Chromebook, you probably
need to run it on a cloud, right?

> if that is the right
> word/concept, on a chromebook core platform. From the chromebook shell I
> know I can run vim to edit files but I would like to compile them. (Viewing
> will be the next chapter!)

One thing that is not entirely clear to me is whether Chromebook is
running linux or not (that is: how wildly modified OS is it running).
At least it says
    your system "Linux armv7l"
Now the main question is whether the statically compiled binaries from
Debian are compatible with Chromebook or not.

In case they are not someone would need to compile new binaries on
regular basis (now that "regular basis" isn't that often as it used to
be, but you would need to do it at least once).

Mojca
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Re: ConTeXt minimal on chromebook

[John Kitzmiller]

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On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Martin maaca Rehula wrote:

> I was using ConTeXt (ages ago) on my Nokia N800. There were/are pre-compiled Debian packages for arm architecture. Try looking this direction.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 21:23:53 CET 2014, John Kitzmiller <kitz@inradius.net> napsal(a):
>> I attempted to put ConTeXt minimal on Samsung chromebook and got:
>>  Error: your system "Linux armv7l" is not supported yet.
>>  Please report to the ConTeXt mailing-list (ntg-context@ntg.nl)
>> 
>> This is not a request to support the armv7l (unless it is trivial) but,
>> 
>> is it futile to attempt installing minimal on a chromebook with Intel ATOM N570, or Intel Celeron-867? (If I had them at hand I would try.)

Thank you Martin. I was not clear. I can run Debian and other *nix flavors on the chromebook by various methods and then have ConTeXt, but I would rather not 'dual boot.'

What I am after is to have ConTeXt run 'natively,' if that is the right word/concept, on a chromebook core platform. From the chromebook shell I know I can run vim to edit files but I would like to compile them. (Viewing will be the next chapter!)


 

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Re: ConTeXt minimal on chromebook

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:23 PM, John Kitzmiller wrote:
> I attempted to put ConTeXt minimal on Samsung chromebook and got:
>   Error: your system "Linux armv7l" is not supported yet.
>   Please report to the ConTeXt mailing-list (ntg-context@ntg.nl)
>
> This is not a request to support the armv7l (unless it is trivial) but,
>
> is it futile to attempt installing minimal on a chromebook with Intel ATOM N570, or Intel Celeron-867? (If I had them at hand I would try.)

It is trivial provided that someone is willing to compile the latest
LuaTeX. Well, there might be some issues with different flavours of
arm architectures (I'm not sure how to distinguish one from another).

Can you please try if these binaries work (there are two arm binaries,
I'm not sure which ones are the proper ones)?
- http://tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Master/bin/
Or if you are able to install TeX Live?
- http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html

If so, I'll add the necessary architecture to the list.

Mojca
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Re: ConTeXt minimal on chromebook

[Martin maaca Rehula]

Hi,

I was using ConTeXt (ages ago) on my Nokia N800. There were/are pre-compiled Debian packages for arm architecture. Try looking this direction.

Martin

17. úno (Pondělí) v 21:23:53 CET 2014, John Kitzmiller <kitz@inradius.net> napsal(a):
> I attempted to put ConTeXt minimal on Samsung chromebook and got:
>   Error: your system "Linux armv7l" is not supported yet.
>   Please report to the ConTeXt mailing-list (ntg-context@ntg.nl)
> 
> This is not a request to support the armv7l (unless it is trivial) but,
> 
> is it futile to attempt installing minimal on a chromebook with Intel ATOM N570, or Intel Celeron-867? (If I had them at hand I would try.)
> 
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ConTeXt minimal on chromebook

[John Kitzmiller]

I attempted to put ConTeXt minimal on Samsung chromebook and got:
  Error: your system "Linux armv7l" is not supported yet.
  Please report to the ConTeXt mailing-list (ntg-context@ntg.nl)

This is not a request to support the armv7l (unless it is trivial) but,

is it futile to attempt installing minimal on a chromebook with Intel ATOM N570, or Intel Celeron-867? (If I had them at hand I would try.)





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