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[77.7.85.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d16sm2746930bkw.2.2013.01.10.13.21.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:21:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130107222047.GA11551@homerow> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.214.46; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0WIKlbpeD - 11aa8c5cd2b7 - 20130110 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.221 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:80201 Archived-At: Am 07.01.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Marco Patzer : > On 2013=9601=9607 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > = >>> Blocks, in contrast to buffers, seem to be able to place content >>> before it is defined. I did not check how they work, but since I >>> didn't see any temporary files, the only possibility is to write the >>> data to the tuc file, I assume. It is by any chance possible to >>> provide a =93method=3Dblock=94? >> = >> Yes, blocks are stored in the tux-file while buffers are only stored in = memory. >> = >> I played for a while with \setdataset to store the content but dropped i= t because >> it required multiple runs and especially in the first run the output wou= ld be always >> wrong > = > That's no problem IMO. Two-pass data is always wrong the first run. > In the worst case, it needs an additional run if text moves around > too much. But since it's just another method, which is optional, > this only applies if it's activated and then the user knows what > he/she is doing and that it might be slower. > = >> I can consider it as a optional method. > = > I think it would be a nice feature. It enables placement of elements > where they logically belong, instead of where they are supposed to > be printed. It's nothing mission critical though, but you can keep > it in mind for a rainy afternoon. You can try the beta from my bitbucket site [0] which uses a two mechanism for named buffers (\startannotation[] =85 \stopannotation) which can be accessed with \getannotation[]. [0] https://bitbucket.org/wolfs/annotation/src Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________