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([82.113.121.149]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm11217621fgb.22.2009.05.21.10.33.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 21 May 2009 10:33:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A15814D.3020400@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=72.14.220.155; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 229720908 - aa2fedd658e5 - 20090521 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.154 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:50676 Archived-At: Am 21.05.2009 um 18:29 schrieb Hans Hagen: > Robert-Andr=E9 Mauchin wrote: >> Hi again, >> I have been reading all threads about the French typography in this = >> mailing list, however the current solution is alas far for perfect. = >> The command \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] was a good = >> idea, but it only deals with spacing. French typography rules not = >> only tells us that there should be a narrow, or a normal space = >> before some punctuation marks like :, ;, , !, ?, =AB or =BB, but also = >> that theses spaces must be non breakable otherwise line breaking = >> could occur just before a punctuation mark (and this is very bad). >> Take a look at the following example: >> \section{Production locale indig=E8ne ou production romaine import=E9e?} > > \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] > > \hsize .1mm a? aa? aaa? aaaa? > > seems ok here so what version are you using? Not tested but shouldn't be the following two lines (type-spa.lua -> = line 131/132) be written in the reverse order (penalty before skip). insert_node_after(head,start,make_glue_node(tex.scale(quad,right))) insert_node_after(head,start,make_penalty_node(10000)) Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________