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* \presentationstep
@ 2004-11-02  6:04 David Munger
  2004-11-02  7:45 ` \presentationstep Henning Hraban Ramm
  2004-11-09 10:18 ` \presentationstep Eckhart Guthöhrlein
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Munger @ 2004-11-02  6:04 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi,

Could someone tell me if I'm doing something bad here, please?

File test.tex
-------------------------------
\usemodule[pre-original]
\starttext
\Subject{Test}
step 1
\presentationstep
step 2
\stoptext
-------------------------------
texexec --mode=step --output=pdf test.tex

This gives me a white page instead of the text I get without
`--mode=step'.

Thanks for any help,

David

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* Re: \presentationstep
  2004-11-02  6:04 \presentationstep David Munger
@ 2004-11-02  7:45 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2004-11-02  9:58   ` \presentationstep Hans Hagen
  2004-11-09 10:18 ` \presentationstep Eckhart Guthöhrlein
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2004-11-02  7:45 UTC (permalink / raw)


Am 02.11.2004 um 07:04 schrieb David Munger:
> Could someone tell me if I'm doing something bad here, please?
>
> File test.tex
> -------------------------------
> \usemodule[pre-original]
> \starttext
> \Subject{Test}
> step 1
> \presentationstep
> step 2
> \stoptext
> -------------------------------
> texexec --mode=step --output=pdf test.tex
>
> This gives me a white page instead of the text I get without
> `--mode=step'.

You doesn't define a "step" mode, so there's no output.
Completely logical. What's the matter?

You can use "--mode=something" switch only for environments like
\startmode[something]
\stopmode[something]

\startnotmode[something]
\stopnotmode[something]

See the wiki:
http://contextgarden.net/Modes

But probably you're looking for:
http://contextgarden.net/Presentation_effects


Grüßlis vom Hraban!
---
http://www.fiee.net/texnique/

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* Re: \presentationstep
  2004-11-02  7:45 ` \presentationstep Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2004-11-02  9:58   ` Hans Hagen
  2004-11-02 22:22     ` \presentationstep David Munger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-11-02  9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)


Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

> Am 02.11.2004 um 07:04 schrieb David Munger:
> 
>> Could someone tell me if I'm doing something bad here, please?
>>
>> File test.tex
>> -------------------------------
>> \usemodule[pre-original]
>> \starttext
>> \Subject{Test}
>> step 1
>> \presentationstep
>> step 2
>> \stoptext
>> -------------------------------
>> texexec --mode=step --output=pdf test.tex
>>
>> This gives me a white page instead of the text I get without
>> `--mode=step'.
> 
> 
> You doesn't define a "step" mode, so there's no output.
> Completely logical. What's the matter?
> 
> You can use "--mode=something" switch only for environments like
> \startmode[something]
> \stopmode[something]
> 
> \startnotmode[something]
> \stopnotmode[something]
> 
> See the wiki:
> http://contextgarden.net/Modes
> 
> But probably you're looking for:
> http://contextgarden.net/Presentation_effects

another option is to use s-pre-60

Hans


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* Re: \presentationstep
  2004-11-02  9:58   ` \presentationstep Hans Hagen
@ 2004-11-02 22:22     ` David Munger
  2004-11-02 22:55       ` \presentationstep h h extern
  2004-11-03  7:47       ` \presentationstep in standard pdf format Maurice Diamantini
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Munger @ 2004-11-02 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)


Nothing seems to work here. I'm afraid the problem is indeed that
Acrobat Reader under Linux is not really JavaScript aware...

Would it be possible to implement the steps commands such that steps
span over multiple slides instead of being managed by JavaScript?

David


Le mardi 02 novembre 2004 à 10:58 +0100, Hans Hagen a écrit :
> Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> 
> > Am 02.11.2004 um 07:04 schrieb David Munger:
> > 
> >> Could someone tell me if I'm doing something bad here, please?
> >>
> >> File test.tex
> >> -------------------------------
> >> \usemodule[pre-original]
> >> \starttext
> >> \Subject{Test}
> >> step 1
> >> \presentationstep
> >> step 2
> >> \stoptext
> >> -------------------------------
> >> texexec --mode=step --output=pdf test.tex
> >>
> >> This gives me a white page instead of the text I get without
> >> `--mode=step'.
> > 
> > 
> > You doesn't define a "step" mode, so there's no output.
> > Completely logical. What's the matter?
> > 
> > You can use "--mode=something" switch only for environments like
> > \startmode[something]
> > \stopmode[something]
> > 
> > \startnotmode[something]
> > \stopnotmode[something]
> > 
> > See the wiki:
> > http://contextgarden.net/Modes
> > 
> > But probably you're looking for:
> > http://contextgarden.net/Presentation_effects
> 
> another option is to use s-pre-60
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
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* Re: \presentationstep
  2004-11-02 22:22     ` \presentationstep David Munger
@ 2004-11-02 22:55       ` h h extern
  2004-11-02 23:38         ` \presentationstep David Munger
  2004-11-03  7:47       ` \presentationstep in standard pdf format Maurice Diamantini
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: h h extern @ 2004-11-02 22:55 UTC (permalink / raw)


David Munger wrote:
> Nothing seems to work here. I'm afraid the problem is indeed that
> Acrobat Reader under Linux is not really JavaScript aware...
> 
> Would it be possible to implement the steps commands such that steps
> span over multiple slides instead of being managed by JavaScript?

try

texexec --pdf --mode=demo s-pre-61

and see if that one suit syour needs (the stepper can be used with other sytles 
as well, once \usemodule[pre-60] is done; acrobat 6 needed)

Hans

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* Re: \presentationstep
  2004-11-02 22:55       ` \presentationstep h h extern
@ 2004-11-02 23:38         ` David Munger
  2004-11-03  9:39           ` \presentationstep Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Munger @ 2004-11-02 23:38 UTC (permalink / raw)


> try
> 
> texexec --pdf --mode=demo s-pre-61

This is actually what I tried.

> and see if that one suit syour needs (the stepper can be used with other sytles 
> as well, once \usemodule[pre-60] is done; acrobat 6 needed)

I think the latest Acrobat Reader version for Linux is 5.0.9. I guess
this means I should forget about steps. Thanks anyway.

David

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* Re: \presentationstep in standard pdf format
  2004-11-02 22:22     ` \presentationstep David Munger
  2004-11-02 22:55       ` \presentationstep h h extern
@ 2004-11-03  7:47       ` Maurice Diamantini
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2004-11-03  7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Maurice Diamantini


Le 2 nov. 04, à 23:22, David Munger a écrit :

> Nothing seems to work here. I'm afraid the problem is indeed that
> Acrobat Reader under Linux is not really JavaScript aware...
>
> Would it be possible to implement the steps commands such that steps
> span over multiple slides instead of being managed by JavaScript?
>
> David

I aggree with David that having the ConTeXt presentation feature
without needed javascript would realy be great.

Pdf is a standard, but not javascript.
It's realy nice to come to a seminar only with a pdf file without 
worrying about which pdf reader tool exists on the host computer.

- Even with acroread 6.02 on osx there is some problem with some button
   (I don't remember which problem, but I just remember it's not 
reliable);
- Also Preview, the fastest pdf reader on osx (provide by Apple, then
   the it is standard pdf reader on osx) don't support javascript;
- linux doesn't have pdf+javascript reader.

So I think that ConTeXt should provide a mean (option in textexec)
to make pdf-only version of presentation.

Finaly there could be three output levels for pdf presentation :

1 - presentation step using javascript (with allow blinking, merging,
     zooming or other nice flashing features ;-)

2 - presentation step without javascript (one pdf page by step)
     => Good format for presentation by foreign pdf reader

3 - pdf file one pdf page for each final step by page
     => Good format for printing 2up or 4up slides
     This third output would also allow to print a "slide + comment"
     version of the presentation for the speacker.

The option of texexec could be something like
	--pdfonly
instead of --pdf, or simply
	--use-javascript=false


Maurice,

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* Re: \presentationstep
  2004-11-02 23:38         ` \presentationstep David Munger
@ 2004-11-03  9:39           ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-11-03  9:39 UTC (permalink / raw)


David Munger wrote:
>>try
>>
>>texexec --pdf --mode=demo s-pre-61
> 
> 
> This is actually what I tried.
> 
> 
>>and see if that one suit syour needs (the stepper can be used with other sytles 
>>as well, once \usemodule[pre-60] is done; acrobat 6 needed)
> 
> 
> I think the latest Acrobat Reader version for Linux is 5.0.9. I guess
> this means I should forget about steps. Thanks anyway.

there are a couple of older presentation styles doing stepwise things (by 
duplicating boxes)

Hans


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                                              | www.pragma-pod.nl
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* Re: \presentationstep
  2004-11-02  6:04 \presentationstep David Munger
  2004-11-02  7:45 ` \presentationstep Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2004-11-09 10:18 ` Eckhart Guthöhrlein
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eckhart Guthöhrlein @ 2004-11-09 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi all,

I finally had some time to look at the recent discussion. Stepwise
presentations have always been somewhat tricky in context, at least for
me.
I think that the rsteps module is a very valuable contribution. No
JavaScript. No dependency on acrobat versions. Just steps.
Thanks to David & co, I hope you will be able to maintain the module.
Will it be included in the distribution?

Greetings,
Eckhart

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