* Widows and Orphans in columns
@ 2003-04-27 14:30 John Culleton
2003-04-27 21:04 ` Hans Hagen
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From: John Culleton @ 2003-04-27 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Do the normal controls \widowpenalty and \clubpenalty work with
Context?
Do they work with ordinary columns?
Do they work with columnsets?
Are there higher level Context constructs I should be using for
this purpose in columns?
John Culleton
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* Re: Widows and Orphans in columns
2003-04-27 14:30 Widows and Orphans in columns John Culleton
@ 2003-04-27 21:04 ` Hans Hagen
2003-04-28 15:32 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-04-27 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
At 10:30 27/04/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Do the normal controls \widowpenalty and \clubpenalty work with
>Context?
>
>Do they work with ordinary columns?
>
>Do they work with columnsets?
probably
>Are there higher level Context constructs I should be using for
>this purpose in columns?
no
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* Re: Widows and Orphans in columns
2003-04-27 21:04 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2003-04-28 15:32 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2003-04-28 20:35 ` John Culleton
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2003-04-28 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
>> Are there higher level Context constructs I should be using for
>> this purpose in columns?
>
> no
No? What about tolerance?
I thought vertical tolerance would wrap these penalties, too?
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* Re: Widows and Orphans in columns
2003-04-28 15:32 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2003-04-28 20:35 ` John Culleton
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From: John Culleton @ 2003-04-28 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Monday 28 April 2003 11:32 am, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> >> Are there higher level Context constructs I should be using for
> >> this purpose in columns?
> >
> > no
>
> No? What about tolerance?
> I thought vertical tolerance would wrap these penalties, too?
>
>
> Grüßlis vom Hraban!
Well, I tried \widowpenalty=10000 and \clubpenalty=10000
but still got a lonely widow at the top of a column at the
top of a page. This was with regular columns, not columnset.
\tolerance (and \pretolerance) as defined in the text book relate
to setting of paragraphs and hyphenation. I am not familiar with the
concept of vertical tolerance.
I can of course play with looseness in the particular paragraph.
But I was looking for a more global solution. In single column
work in e.g., pdftex the above widow and club penalties get
the job done.
Should I toy with e.g., \baselineskip (value) plus (value)? This
seems too bitfiddly for a high level macro set like Context. But
I will do what is required. Just point me in the right direction
and pull the trigger :)
John Culleton
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