hyphenation again (mkii)

hyphenation again (mkii)

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

please have a look at the following minimal (4 text-lines):


\hyphenation{Er-gän-zungs-lie-fe-rung}
\showframe

\starttext

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this should brake after Ergän-

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text 26.|\,|Ergänzungslieferung% this does brake after Ergän-

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text text 26.|\,|Ergänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this does NOT brake after 26.

\stoptext


I need a thinspace that prevents line-break between "26." and  
"Ergänzungslieferung".
On the other hand this thinspace shouldn't kill my hyphenation points  
(i.e. the word should stay breakable)!

Any idea?


Thanks,

Steffen
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Re: hyphenation again (mkii)

[Hans Hagen]

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

> On the other hand this thinspace shouldn't kill my hyphenation points  
> (i.e. the word should stay breakable)!

bla|~|bla should do that

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Re: hyphenation again (mkii)

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 17.12.2007 um 14:54 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

> Hi,
>
> please have a look at the following minimal (4 text-lines):
>
>
> \hyphenation{Er-gän-zungs-lie-fe-rung}
> \showframe
>
> \starttext
>
> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
> text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this should brake after Ergän-
>
> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
> text 26.|\,|Ergänzungslieferung% this does brake after Ergän-
>
> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
> text text 26.|\,|Ergänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.
>
> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
> text text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this does NOT brake after 26.
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> I need a thinspace that prevents line-break between "26." and
> "Ergänzungslieferung".
> On the other hand this thinspace shouldn't kill my hyphenation points
> (i.e. the word should stay breakable)!


The tilde sign "~" would be perfect, it is just to wide:

\hyphenation{
Er-gän-zungs-lie-fe-rung
}
\showframe
\starttext

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text 26.~Ergänzungslieferung% this should brake after Ergän-

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text text 26.~Ergänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text text 26.\,Er-gänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text text 26.\,Er-gänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

\stoptext


Is there something that is narrow as \, or \thinspace but behaves  
(see above) like ~ ???

Steffen
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Re: hyphenation again (mkii) [solved]

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Wolfgang knew the answer, and as the solution is so brilliant I don't  
want to be selfish about this treasure:

\definetextmodediscretionary ThinSpace
   {\penalty\plustenthousand\hskip.166em\relax}

\definetextmodediscretionary ThickSpace
   {\penalty\plustenthousand\hskip.277em\relax}

... and in situations like "today is the 204.|ThinSpace|anniversary  
of the death of Johann Gottfried von Herder" you will avoid an  
unintended line-break after "204." but will keep all hyphenation  
points in "anniversary". And that's great.

Cheers Johann Gottfried, btw!!

Steffen



Am 18.12.2007 um 11:05 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

>
> Am 17.12.2007 um 14:54 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> please have a look at the following minimal (4 text-lines):
>>
>>
>> \hyphenation{Er-gän-zungs-lie-fe-rung}
>> \showframe
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
>> text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this should brake after Ergän-
>>
>> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
>> text 26.|\,|Ergänzungslieferung% this does brake after Ergän-
>>
>> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
>> text text 26.|\,|Ergänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.
>>
>> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
>> text text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this does NOT brake after 26.
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> I need a thinspace that prevents line-break between "26." and
>> "Ergänzungslieferung".
>> On the other hand this thinspace shouldn't kill my hyphenation points
>> (i.e. the word should stay breakable)!
>
>
> The tilde sign "~" would be perfect, it is just to wide:
>
> \hyphenation{
> Er-gän-zungs-lie-fe-rung
> }
> \showframe
> \starttext
>
> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
> text 26.~Ergänzungslieferung% this should brake after Ergän-
>
> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
> text text 26.~Ergänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.
>
> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
> text text 26.\,Er-gänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.
>
> Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
> text text 26.\,Er-gänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> Is there something that is narrow as \, or \thinspace but behaves
> (see above) like ~ ???
>
> Steffen
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