Different font variants (normal <> condensed, light <> regular <> bold, etc.)

Different font variants (normal <> condensed, light <> regular <> bold, etc.)

[Zenlima]

Hi,

I am trying to define the different variants of the Roboto font ([1]
for sans and [2][3][4][5] for serif).

Now I am trying to define this for context but I have no idea how to
define the condensed versions (plus how to access it later). And how
do I enter and access the different weights next to regular and
bold (light, thin, heavy)? And how to define the weight
light as default (instead of regular)? I got so far:

--------8<--------------------------
\enableregime[utf]

\definefontfeature[Latn-smallcaps][smcp=yes,script=latn,kern=yes]
\definefontfeature[fakeitalic][default][slant=.25]

\definefontfeature[arab][mode=node,language=dflt,script=arab,init=yes,medi=yes,fina=yes,isol=yes,liga=yes,dlig=yes,rlig=yes,clig=yes,mark=yes,mkmk=yes,kern=yes,curs=yes]

\definefontsynonym
[arab--scheherazade--serif][name:scheherazade][features=arab]
\definefontsynonym[brai--6punktoj][name:6punktoj] %^1

\starttypescript[sans][roboto]
\definefontfallback[Sans][brai--6punktoj][0x2800-0x283f][force=yes,check=no]
\definefontfallback[Sans][arab--scheherazade--serif][0x0600-0x06ff,0x0750-0x077f,0xfb50-0xfdff,0xfe70-0xfefe][force=yes,check=no,rscale=1.9]
\definefontsynonym[Sans][name:robotoregular][fallbacks=Sans]
\definefontsynonym[SansBold][name:robotobold]
\definefontsynonym[SansItalic][name:robotoitalic]
\definefontsynonym[SansSlanted][name:robotoitalic]
\definefontsynonym[SansBoldItalic][name:robotobolditalic]
\definefontsynonym[SansBoldSlanted][name:robotobolditalic]
\definefontsynonym[SansCaps][name:robotoregular][features=Latn-smallcaps]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[serif][roboto] 
\definefontfallback[Serif][brai--6punktoj][0x2800-0x283f][force=yes,check=no]
\definefontfallback[Serif][arab--scheherazade--serif][0x0600-0x06ff,0x0750-0x077f,0xfb50-0xfdff,0xfe70-0xfefe][force=yes,check=no,rscale=1.9]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][name:robotoslabregular][fallbacks=Serif]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBold][name:robotoslabbold]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][name:robotoslabregular][features=fakeitalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifSlanted][name:robotoslabregular][features=fakeitalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][name:robotoslabbold][features=fakeitalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldSlanted][name:robotoslabbold][features=fakeitalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifCaps][name:robotoslabregular][features=Latn-smallcaps] 
\stoptypescript

\definetypeface[fliesstext][rm][serif][roboto] 
\definetypeface[fliesstext][ss][sans][roboto] 

\setupbodyfont[fliesstext,rm,11pt]


----8<------------------------------------------

Any help is appreciated :-)


1) That braille font is created by myself and will be published for
   ConTeXt soon - still a little rocky.

[1] https://dl-ssl.google.com/android/design/Roboto_Hinted_20111129.zip
[2] http://ff.static.1001fonts.net/r/o/roboto-slab.regular.ttf
[3] http://ff.static.1001fonts.net/r/o/roboto-slab.thin.ttf
[4] http://ff.static.1001fonts.net/r/o/roboto-slab.light.ttf
[5] http://ff.static.1001fonts.net/r/o/roboto-slab.bold.ttf
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Re: Different font variants (normal <> condensed, light <> regular <> bold, etc.)

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 09.07.2013 um 13:20 schrieb Zenlima <post@zenlima.eu>:

> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to define the different variants of the Roboto font ([1]
> for sans and [2][3][4][5] for serif).
> 
> Now I am trying to define this for context but I have no idea how to
> define the condensed versions (plus how to access it later). And how
> do I enter and access the different weights next to regular and
> bold (light, thin, heavy)? And how to define the weight
> light as default (instead of regular)? I got so far:
> 
> --------8<--------------------------
> \enableregime[utf]
> 
> \definefontfeature[Latn-smallcaps][smcp=yes,script=latn,kern=yes]
> \definefontfeature[fakeitalic][default][slant=.25]
> 
> \definefontfeature[arab][mode=node,language=dflt,script=arab,init=yes,medi=yes,fina=yes,isol=yes,liga=yes,dlig=yes,rlig=yes,clig=yes,mark=yes,mkmk=yes,kern=yes,curs=yes]
> 
> \definefontsynonym
> [arab--scheherazade--serif][name:scheherazade][features=arab]
> \definefontsynonym[brai--6punktoj][name:6punktoj] %^1
> 
> \starttypescript[sans][roboto]
> \definefontfallback[Sans][brai--6punktoj][0x2800-0x283f][force=yes,check=no]
> \definefontfallback[Sans][arab--scheherazade--serif][0x0600-0x06ff,0x0750-0x077f,0xfb50-0xfdff,0xfe70-0xfefe][force=yes,check=no,rscale=1.9]
> \definefontsynonym[Sans][name:robotoregular][fallbacks=Sans]
> \definefontsynonym[SansBold][name:robotobold]
> \definefontsynonym[SansItalic][name:robotoitalic]
> \definefontsynonym[SansSlanted][name:robotoitalic]
> \definefontsynonym[SansBoldItalic][name:robotobolditalic]
> \definefontsynonym[SansBoldSlanted][name:robotobolditalic]
> \definefontsynonym[SansCaps][name:robotoregular][features=Latn-smallcaps]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \starttypescript[serif][roboto] 
> \definefontfallback[Serif][brai--6punktoj][0x2800-0x283f][force=yes,check=no]
> \definefontfallback[Serif][arab--scheherazade--serif][0x0600-0x06ff,0x0750-0x077f,0xfb50-0xfdff,0xfe70-0xfefe][force=yes,check=no,rscale=1.9]
> \definefontsynonym[Serif][name:robotoslabregular][fallbacks=Serif]
> \definefontsynonym[SerifBold][name:robotoslabbold]
> \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][name:robotoslabregular][features=fakeitalic]
> \definefontsynonym[SerifSlanted][name:robotoslabregular][features=fakeitalic]
> \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][name:robotoslabbold][features=fakeitalic]
> \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldSlanted][name:robotoslabbold][features=fakeitalic]
> \definefontsynonym[SerifCaps][name:robotoslabregular][features=Latn-smallcaps] 
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \definetypeface[fliesstext][rm][serif][roboto] 
> \definetypeface[fliesstext][ss][sans][roboto] 
> 
> \setupbodyfont[fliesstext,rm,11pt]
> 
> 
> ----8<------------------------------------------
> 
> Any help is appreciated :-)

Try the two attached files (untested):


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\starttext

\switchtobodyfont[roboto]

\rm\input ward\par
\ss\input ward

\blank

\switchtobodyfont[roboto-condensed]

\rm\input ward\par
\ss\input ward

\blank

\switchtobodyfont[roboto-medium]

\rm\input ward\par
\ss\input ward

\blank

\switchtobodyfont[roboto-light]

\rm\input ward\par
\ss\input ward

\stoptext

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\starttypescriptcollection [roboto]

\starttypescript [sans] [roboto]
  \setups[font:fallback:sans]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [file:robotoregular]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [file:robotoitalic]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [file:robotobold]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:robotobolditalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [roboto-condensed]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [file:robotocondensed]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [file:robotocondenseditalic]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [file:robotoboldcondensed]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:robotoboldcondenseditalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [roboto-medium]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [file:robotomedium]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [file:robotomediumitalic]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [file:robotoblack]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:robotoblackitalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [roboto-light]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [file:robotolight]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [file:robotolightitalic]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [file:robotoregular]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:robotoitalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [roboto,roboto-condensed,roboto-medium]
  \definefontsynonym [Serif]     [file:robotoslabregular]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:robotoslabbold]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [roboto-light]
  \definefontsynonym [Serif]     [file:robotoslablight]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:robotoslabregular]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [roboto,roboto-condensed,roboto-medium,roboto-light]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [\typescriptone] [default] [features=default]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [sans]  [\typescriptone] [default] [features=default]
\stoptypescript

\stoptypescriptcollection

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Re: Different font variants (normal <> condensed, light <> regular <> bold, etc.)

[Zenlima]

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Thanks Wolfgang,

your example works. :)

For understanding I tried to make the example script-name independent,
so it doesn't fix my environment onto one specific script (see attached
files). But there must be some secret naming conventions.. then I guess
and entered a command to switch to the roboto-typescripcollection.. but
I guess wrongly. Are all secret (font) naming conventions somewhere
documented?

I think the limitation of font-dimensions decreases the reuse ability
of context/mkiv a lot. Also I found some thoughts that were made in the
context community some time ago:

	http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2010/talks/2010-09-15-mojca-fonts/some-thoughts-about-typescripts.pdf

Is there any progress in that direction with context/mkiv?

H.

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Re: Different font variants (normal <> condensed, light <> regular <> bold, etc.)

[Zenlima]

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Thanks Wolfgang,

your example works. :)

For understanding I tried to make the example script-name independent,
so it doesn't fix my environment onto one specific script (see attached
files). But there must be some secret naming conventions.. then I guess
and entered a command to switch to the roboto-typescripcollection.. but
I guess wrongly. Are all secret (font) naming conventions somewhere
documented?

I think the limitation of font-dimensions decreases the reuse ability
of context/mkiv a lot. Also I found some thoughts that were made in the
context community some time ago:

	http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2010/talks/2010-09-15-mojca-fonts/some-thoughts-about-typescripts.pdf

Is there any progress in that direction with context/mkiv?

H.

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\starttext

%\usetypescriptcollection[roboto]

\switchtobodyfont[400-700--normal]

\rm\input ward\par
\ss\input ward

\blank

\switchtobodyfont[400-700--consended]

\rm\input ward\par
\ss\input ward

\blank


\switchtobodyfont[500-700--normal]

\rm\input ward\par
\ss\input ward

\blank

\switchtobodyfont[300-400--normal]

\rm\input ward\par
\ss\input ward

\stoptext

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\starttypescriptcollection [roboto]

\starttypescript [sans] [400-700--normal]
  \setups[font:fallback:sans]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [file:robotoregular]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [file:robotoitalic]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [file:robotobold]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:robotobolditalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [400-700--condensed]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [file:robotocondensed]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [file:robotocondenseditalic]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [file:robotoboldcondensed]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:robotoboldcondenseditalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [500-800--normal]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [file:robotomedium]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [file:robotomediumitalic]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [file:robotoblack]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:robotoblackitalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [300-400--normal]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [file:robotolight]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [file:robotolightitalic]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [file:robotoregular]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:robotoitalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [400-700--normal,400-700--condensed,500-800--normal]
  \definefontsynonym [Serif]     [file:robotoslabregular]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:robotoslabbold]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [300-400--normal]
  \definefontsynonym [Serif]     [file:robotoslablight]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:robotoslabregular]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [400-700--normal,400-700--consended,500-800--normal,300-400--normal]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [\typescriptone] [default] [features=default]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [sans]  [\typescriptone] [default] [features=default]
\stoptypescript

\stoptypescriptcollection

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Re: Different font variants (normal <> condensed, light <> regular <> bold, etc.)

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 11.07.2013 um 12:04 schrieb Zenlima <post@zenlima.eu>:

> Thanks Wolfgang,
> 
> your example works. :)
> 
> For understanding I tried to make the example script-name independent,
> so it doesn't fix my environment onto one specific script (see attached
> files). But there must be some secret naming conventions.. then I guess
> and entered a command to switch to the roboto-typescripcollection.. but
> I guess wrongly. Are all secret (font) naming conventions somewhere
> documented?

I don’t know what you mean by secret names but your example doesn’t
work because you don’t load the typescripts. When you add

  \usetypescriptfile[roboto]

your example should example. This line wasn’t necessary in my example
because “roboto” was part of the typeface names (which is used with
\switchtobodyfont) and context was able to load the file itself because
the file has also the name roboto but in your case the typeface has
the name “400-700--normal”.

Wolfgang
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