[NTG-context] Re: bibliography questions

[Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>]

Am 03.10.23 um 02:02 schrieb Alan Braslau:
> On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 13:13:52 +0200
> Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> 
>> Consider:
>> @Book {rattenhka,
>> author = "Bettina von Arnim and Gisela von Arnim",
>> title = "Das Leben der Hochgräfin Gritta von Rattenzuhausbeiuns",
>> …
>> }
>>
>> The authors are usually given as “Bettina and Gisela von Arnim”
>> (mother and daughter; similar “Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm” as brothers
>> or “Bettina and Achim von Arnim” as a couple) – is there a good
>> solution for related authors?
> 
> Multiple authors should be treated as multiple authors. That they are
> related is not and should not be a consideration in citing works. At
> least this is the practice that I know of for academic texts.
> 
> You can cheat and try to define one author with a combined first name,
> like
> author={Eames, Ray & Earl},
> but I don't know how that parses as I have never tried it; "and" is a
> reserved token used to define multiple authors. I wouldn't do it as I
> can think of many examples (Bjaer & Bjaer) where we give both credit,
> individually.

Thank you.

It seems like database solutions like BibTeX & Cie are generally not 
suitable for quoting books as they were published – and that’s important 
in the contexts of “my” authors (literary studies, history).

For my ConTeXt book, I thought it would make sense, and I would jump 
through some hoops just to use the system, but
– most sources that I want to list are never quoted (method=dataset)
– I would need to define my own rendering, e.g. don’t like the handling 
of names
– I need additional fields (custom rendering again)
– if I refer to sources, I want a URL or file path in a footnote (custom 
cite wrapper macro)
This all works fine without the btx subsysten (I just need to find 
solutions for some edge cases, or avoid them), so I probably had wrong 
ideas about bibliographies (at least in TeX).

OTOH, for my novel I can use the bib database approach for an extended 
person register; the required rendering is much less involved.

Hraban
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