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From: Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>
To: Alan Braslau <alan.braslau@icloud.com>
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: [NTG-context] Re: missing space with French quotation
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:40:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8bbf68d3-8ebd-6137-25fd-19db7950ff3a@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240607082127.1e129c2d@boo.my.domain>

Alan Braslau schrieb am 07.06.2024 um 16:21:
> I have *never* understood how this works and, in fact, have always done
> weird stuff like explicitly putting a nbps before double punctuation
> (:;) in my document sources. I do this as it makes the sources much
> more readable, preventing my text editor from ever breaking lines
> before the punctuation (and not having some space in the source looks
> awkward when reading French text).
> 
> I use:
> 
> [...]
> 
> This gives proper spacing with \quotation{} and with \startquotation
> ... \stopquotation. Also, {\en\quotation{}} and {\de\quotation{}} in
> the document correctly do not add spaces.

1. \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] takes care about the space 
before/after quotation marks when you use manual quotes in a document.

It doesn't matter whether you use or don't use space between the 
quotations marks and the quoted text.

%%%% begin example
\starttext

\startlines
«quoted text»
« quoted text »
\stoplines

\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]

\startlines
«quoted text»
« quoted text »
\stoplines

\stoptext
%%%% end example

2. When you use the quotation command or environment ConTeXt adds a 
space between the quotation marks and the quoted text by itself but in 
the quotation-environment the space before the closing mark disappears 
when you add \setcharacterspacing.

%%%% begin example
\language[fr]

\starttext

\startquotation
quoted text
\stopquotation

\quotation{quoted text}

\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]

\startquotation
quoted text
\stopquotation

\quotation{quoted text}

\stoptext
%%%% end example

> Is \setupquotation[symstyle=\resetcharacterspacing] necessary?

It's a temporary fix for the problem with the quotation environment by 
disabling the characterspacing mechanism when ConTeXt places the 
quotation marks.

Wolfgang
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      reply	other threads:[~2024-06-07 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-30 15:34 [NTG-context] " Peter Münster
2024-05-30 17:21 ` [NTG-context] " Rik Kabel
2024-05-30 20:33   ` Wolfgang Schuster
2024-05-30 21:29     ` Rik Kabel
2024-06-04 18:31 ` Peter Münster
2024-06-07 11:31 ` Peter Münster
2024-06-07 12:18   ` Wolfgang Schuster
2024-06-07 14:21     ` Alan Braslau via ntg-context
2024-06-07 17:40       ` Wolfgang Schuster [this message]

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