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From: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>,
	Tomas Hala <tomas.hala@mendelu.cz>
Subject: Re: Questions to PDF/A compliant documents: missing ICC files? -- II.
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 21:24:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8e88c19d-fb13-561c-409d-2b86f314b932@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180720150555.GA3412@akela.mendelu.cz>

On 7/20/2018 5:05 PM, Tomas Hala wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to open the PDF/A topic once more.

maybe discuss it at the upcoming ctx meeting ... you can prepare a 
summative talk about it (including the demands for following some standard)


> First, I would like to thank Alan, Luigi, Pablo and Henri for their pieces
> of help and information.
> 
> ========
> Summary:
> ========
> 
> (a) where I can find the set of original default*.icc files,
> 
> # Alan: /usr/local/share/color/icc/ghostscript
> 
> This must be dependent on the version of operating system or on something
> else because on computers I have permission to work on no this subtree is present.
> 
> # Luigi: tex/texmf-context/colors/icc
> 
> In standalone versions I tried during March and April and Pablo in June, there is really this special directory
> but we found there only one of the files -- default_gray.icc. Other default*.icc files
> (default_cmyk.icc, default_rgb.icc) which are mentioned at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDF/A
> were not present. Similarly at http://www.eci.org/en/downloads.
> 
> # Henri:  http://dl.contextgarden.net/misc/iccprofiles/complete_ICC_profiles.zip
> 
> Good deal -- here one can really find all three default*.icc files mentioned at
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDF/A, but with no visible link to the
> mentioned zipfile from this page.
> 
> ========
> 
> (b) what is the reason why these files are not included in the TeXlive and garden installations,
> (c) if it is possible to add it there for future, and
> 
> # Luigi: They are not included in texlive for some copyright issues.
> 
> What is the difference between texlive copyright approach and context standalone copyright approach?
> 
> I read a few documents about licences for icc files and it seemed to me that the redistribution is possible,
> for non-commercial use without restrictions, the redistributor is obliged only to add the corresponding
> licence document to the software containing the icc file(s) and must not change the name of the file(s).
> 
> So, is possible to add the missing two default*.icc files to the context standalone version?
> 
> ========
> 
> (d) if the produced PDF (with \setupbackend[format={pdf/a-1b:2005}...]) is
> PDF/a compliant when these icc files are not present and the whole content
> of the document is only in black (i.e. no grayscale, no colours).
> 
> # No reaction. :-)
> 
> This question is important only if the default*.icc files are not (will not be) present and used when the PDF file is generated.
> Has somebody got any idea whether the PDF/A without icc files is accepted as PDF/A or not?
> 
> ========
> 
> The best,
> 
> Tomáš
> 
> -----------------------
> 
> Tue, Jun 19, 2018 ve 09:38:55AM +1200 Henri Menke napsal(a):
> #
> #
> # On 19/06/18 03:20, Tomas Hala wrote:
> # >Hi all,
> # >
> # >at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDF/A I found the following:
> # >
> # >"""""
> # >In ConTeXt mkiv, in order to create such a compliant PDF/A file, one can do as follows: first install (or check that they are present) the following color profiles files
> # >
> # >default_cmyk.icc
> # >default_gray.icc
> # >default_rgb.icc
> # >ISOcoated_v2_300_eci.icc
> # >
> # >into tex/texmf-context/colors/icc/profiles of your Context standalone directory. The default_*.icc files are part of ghostscript...
> # >"""""
> # >
> # >So I checked that they are present (CentOS 6.6, GPL Ghostscript 8.70) and
> # >I discovered that these files are not present at any ConTeXt (or TeX) installation from TeXlive
> # >neither as separate files, nor at file context/colors/icc/context/colorprofiles.xml.
> # >
> # >Only default_gray.icc is present as a part of ConTeXt installations from our garden.
> # >
> # >Therefore, I would like to ask
> # >(a) where I can find the set of original default*.icc files,
> # >(b) what is the reason why these files are not included in the TeXlive and garden installations,
> # >(c) if it is possible to add it there for future, and
> # >(d) if the produced PDF (with \setupbackend[format={pdf/a-1b:2005}...]) is PDF/a compliant when these
> # >icc files are not present and the whole content of the document is only in black (i.e. no grayscale, no colours).
> #
> # wget http://dl.contextgarden.net/misc/iccprofiles/complete_ICC_profiles.zip
> # unzip complete_ICC_profiles.zip -d /opt/context/tex/texmf-local
> #
> # >
> # >Our university decided to be "PDF/a compliant", that is the reason why I am asking.
> # >
> # >Best wishes,
> # >
> # >Tomáš
> # >
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-20 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-18 15:20 Questions to PDF/A compliant documents: missing ICC files? Tomas Hala
2018-06-18 15:35 ` Alan Braslau
2018-06-18 16:13 ` luigi scarso
2018-06-18 16:48 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-06-18 21:38 ` Henri Menke
2018-07-20 15:05   ` Questions to PDF/A compliant documents: missing ICC files? -- II Tomas Hala
2018-07-20 19:24     ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2018-07-26  7:34       ` Tomas Hala
2018-07-26  8:27         ` Hans Hagen

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