* Tagged export breaks r2l alignment in tabulate [not found] <59e0e0dc-6b65-49e8-be90-bfd449345f11@mailbox.org> @ 2020-09-23 12:14 ` Denis Maier 2020-09-23 14:04 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Denis Maier @ 2020-09-23 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi, this example produces correctly aligned right-to-left text: ============ \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=unicode] \starttext \starttabulate[|p|p|] \NC Text \NC Translation \NC\NR \NC\setupalign[r2l]\input ward \NC\input ward \NC\NR \stoptabulate \stoptext ============== But, this here fails: ============ \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=unicode] \setupbackend[export=yes] \setupstructure[state=start,method=auto] \starttext \starttabulate[|p|p|] \NC Text \NC Translation \NC\NR \NC\setupalign[r2l]\input ward \NC\input ward \NC\NR \stoptabulate \stoptext ============== Why is that? And what can I do about it? (I need tagged pdf for PDF/A compliance.) Best, Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Tagged export breaks r2l alignment in tabulate 2020-09-23 12:14 ` Tagged export breaks r2l alignment in tabulate Denis Maier @ 2020-09-23 14:04 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2020-09-26 20:39 ` Denis Maier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-09-23 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Denis Maier schrieb am 23.09.2020 um 14:14: > Hi, > > this example produces correctly aligned right-to-left text: > > ============ > \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] > \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=unicode] > > \starttext > > \starttabulate[|p|p|] > \NC Text > \NC Translation > \NC\NR > \NC\setupalign[r2l]\input ward > \NC\input ward > \NC\NR > \stoptabulate > > \stoptext > ============== > > But, this here fails: > > ============ > \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] > \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=unicode] > \setupbackend[export=yes] > \setupstructure[state=start,method=auto] > > \starttext > > \starttabulate[|p|p|] > \NC Text > \NC Translation > \NC\NR > \NC\setupalign[r2l]\input ward > \NC\input ward > \NC\NR > \stoptabulate > > \stoptext > ============== > > Why is that? The export can lead to unwanted results in the PDF and should always be done in a separate run. > And what can I do about it? (I need tagged pdf for PDF/A compliance.) You do you use export when you need only tagging? You can enable tagging with \setuptagging[state=start] and to set the PDF format use \setupbackend but ignore the export key. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Tagged export breaks r2l alignment in tabulate 2020-09-23 14:04 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-09-26 20:39 ` Denis Maier 2020-09-27 13:40 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Denis Maier @ 2020-09-26 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Am 23.09.2020 um 16:04 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > Denis Maier schrieb am 23.09.2020 um 14:14: >> Hi, >> >> this example produces correctly aligned right-to-left text: >> >> ============ >> \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] >> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=unicode] >> >> \starttext >> >> \starttabulate[|p|p|] >> \NC Text >> \NC Translation >> \NC\NR >> \NC\setupalign[r2l]\input ward >> \NC\input ward >> \NC\NR >> \stoptabulate >> >> \stoptext >> ============== >> >> But, this here fails: >> >> ============ >> \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] >> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=unicode] >> \setupbackend[export=yes] >> \setupstructure[state=start,method=auto] >> >> \starttext >> >> \starttabulate[|p|p|] >> \NC Text >> \NC Translation >> \NC\NR >> \NC\setupalign[r2l]\input ward >> \NC\input ward >> \NC\NR >> \stoptabulate >> >> \stoptext >> ============== >> >> Why is that? > > The export can lead to unwanted results in the PDF and should always be > done in a separate run. > >> And what can I do about it? (I need tagged pdf for PDF/A compliance.) > > You do you use export when you need only tagging? > > > You can enable tagging with > > \setuptagging[state=start] > > and to set the PDF format use \setupbackend but ignore the export key. > > Wolfgang Thanks, Wolfgang for that suggestion. However, that does not seems to solve the problem. Put differently, tagging seems to lead to the same sort of problems. Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Tagged export breaks r2l alignment in tabulate 2020-09-26 20:39 ` Denis Maier @ 2020-09-27 13:40 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2020-09-30 14:18 ` Denis Maier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-09-27 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Denis Maier; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users Denis Maier schrieb am 26.09.2020 um 22:39: > Am 23.09.2020 um 16:04 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: >> Denis Maier schrieb am 23.09.2020 um 14:14: >>> Hi, >>> >>> this example produces correctly aligned right-to-left text: >>> >>> ============ >>> \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] >>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=unicode] >>> >>> \starttext >>> >>> \starttabulate[|p|p|] >>> \NC Text >>> \NC Translation >>> \NC\NR >>> \NC\setupalign[r2l]\input ward >>> \NC\input ward >>> \NC\NR >>> \stoptabulate >>> >>> \stoptext >>> ============== >>> >>> But, this here fails: >>> >>> ============ >>> \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] >>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=unicode] >>> \setupbackend[export=yes] >>> \setupstructure[state=start,method=auto] >>> >>> \starttext >>> >>> \starttabulate[|p|p|] >>> \NC Text >>> \NC Translation >>> \NC\NR >>> \NC\setupalign[r2l]\input ward >>> \NC\input ward >>> \NC\NR >>> \stoptabulate >>> >>> \stoptext >>> ============== >>> >>> Why is that? >> >> The export can lead to unwanted results in the PDF and should always >> be done in a separate run. >> >>> And what can I do about it? (I need tagged pdf for PDF/A compliance.) >> >> You do you use export when you need only tagging? >> >> >> You can enable tagging with >> >> \setuptagging[state=start] >> >> and to set the PDF format use \setupbackend but ignore the export key. >> >> Wolfgang > > Thanks, Wolfgang for that suggestion. However, that does not seems to > solve the problem. Put differently, tagging seems to lead to the same > sort of problems. It works when you set the alignment in the template of the table. \setupdirections [bidi=global, method=unicode] \setuptagging [state=start] \starttext \starttabulate[|pA{righttoleft}|p|] %\NC \raggedleft Text \NC Translation \NC\NR \NC \rightaligned{Text} \NC Translation \NC\NR \NC \input ward \NC \input ward \NC\NR \stoptabulate \stoptext Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Tagged export breaks r2l alignment in tabulate 2020-09-27 13:40 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-09-30 14:18 ` Denis Maier 2020-09-30 15:33 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Denis Maier @ 2020-09-30 14:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Wolfgang Schuster Am 27.09.2020 um 15:40 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > Denis Maier schrieb am 26.09.2020 um 22:39: >> Am 23.09.2020 um 16:04 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: >>> Denis Maier schrieb am 23.09.2020 um 14:14: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> this example produces correctly aligned right-to-left text: >>>> >>>> ============ >>>> \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] >>>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=unicode] >>>> >>>> \starttext >>>> >>>> \starttabulate[|p|p|] >>>> \NC Text >>>> \NC Translation >>>> \NC\NR >>>> \NC\setupalign[r2l]\input ward >>>> \NC\input ward >>>> \NC\NR >>>> \stoptabulate >>>> >>>> \stoptext >>>> ============== >>>> >>>> But, this here fails: >>>> >>>> ============ >>>> \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] >>>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=unicode] >>>> \setupbackend[export=yes] >>>> \setupstructure[state=start,method=auto] >>>> >>>> \starttext >>>> >>>> \starttabulate[|p|p|] >>>> \NC Text >>>> \NC Translation >>>> \NC\NR >>>> \NC\setupalign[r2l]\input ward >>>> \NC\input ward >>>> \NC\NR >>>> \stoptabulate >>>> >>>> \stoptext >>>> ============== >>>> >>>> Why is that? >>> >>> The export can lead to unwanted results in the PDF and should always >>> be done in a separate run. >>> >>>> And what can I do about it? (I need tagged pdf for PDF/A compliance.) >>> >>> You do you use export when you need only tagging? >>> >>> >>> You can enable tagging with >>> >>> \setuptagging[state=start] >>> >>> and to set the PDF format use \setupbackend but ignore the export key. >>> >>> Wolfgang >> >> Thanks, Wolfgang for that suggestion. However, that does not seems to >> solve the problem. Put differently, tagging seems to lead to the same >> sort of problems. > > It works when you set the alignment in the template of the table. > > \setupdirections > [bidi=global, > method=unicode] > > \setuptagging > [state=start] > > \starttext > > \starttabulate[|pA{righttoleft}|p|] > %\NC \raggedleft Text \NC Translation \NC\NR > \NC \rightaligned{Text} \NC Translation \NC\NR > \NC \input ward \NC \input ward \NC\NR > \stoptabulate > > \stoptext Ok, that works. Is it possible to define that both cells in the first row as left to right? (Like in the definition, not in the cell.) Best, Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Tagged export breaks r2l alignment in tabulate 2020-09-30 14:18 ` Denis Maier @ 2020-09-30 15:33 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-09-30 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Denis Maier; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users Denis Maier schrieb am 30.09.2020 um 16:18: > Ok, that works. Is it possible to define that both cells in the first > row as left to right? (Like in the definition, not in the cell.) I don't think so but maybe table headers can help you. \starttext \starttabulatehead[] \BC \raggedcenter Column 1 \BC \raggedcenter Column 2 \NC\NR \stoptabulatehead \starttabulate[|p|p|] \NC \input ward \NC \input ward \NC\NR \stoptabulate \stoptext Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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