From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/77796 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Blackstone Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Marking a textfragment for later reference Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:44:29 +0200 Message-ID: <905DD621-C648-4033-91CA-EC4A7ECB0FBF@gmail.com> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344332684 7649 80.91.229.3 (7 Aug 2012 09:44:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 09:44:44 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Aug 07 11:44:44 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SygLD-0001Ph-71 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 11:44:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FD1101F3; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:44:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id G0U-jynKB1RY; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:44:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F221710202; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:44:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8052E10202 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:44:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id eLM2XJbzbhny for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:44:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-til.mf.surf.net (filter2-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.218]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDFC101F3 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:44:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by filter2-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q779iZET003050 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:44:36 +0200 Original-Received: by weys10 with SMTP id s10so3342423wey.14 for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:44:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=17lqH4AZ+uDKZA9CrdQInqJrI1D7+1xW9n2d/dFGOaM=; b=RuvL4csEfWmPxbs0DJalOSknzUqhf1Xcd34Seg1TqLjDNfAgRomwX6mvaCr87xKakY hWRCC1cK19yLU1BKdZhB685M6M4w2BkTKW/4anrEaNlR0CUYWHyK0ThgNhM7A97Ow7T2 CJMuaHtp3/HU3PFIrvNnxRAEMw184rBkTpqSNT9oecT8L3hjGYxD2a6AsPvZQOfPu/sk 34jNxGbrw+k1EWsulOQaYIBGAaLF66kVYgotial3Uap4ihe/lBjfjs5rphi3kHti/zAt /RwInxhNhI1DJSk5zeoH3PY77lT66vTueF82yM4r+NhyEGZGtTzoQjMXgoqF2+UHOx5G NPkg== Original-Received: by 10.180.99.133 with SMTP id eq5mr12582774wib.0.1344332675105; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.5] (lns-bzn-23-82-248-68-110.adsl.proxad.net. [82.248.68.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dc3sm20443767wib.7.2012.08.07.02.44.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:44:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0005 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=74.125.82.169; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0THHJIzzd - 59160cbb4fbb - 20120807 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.218 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:77796 Archived-At: On 7 aug. 2012, Pontus Lurcock wrote > > On Tue 07 Aug 2012, Robert Blackstone wrote: > >> Here follows my minimal example. I reasoned that the identifier [topica] might act as a label, or an anchor, or whatever the correct ConTeXt name is, for a reference. >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> \definedelimitedtext[topica] >> \setupdelimitedtext[topica][left=,right=] %maybe superfluous? I do not need a layout different from the rest of the text. >> \starttext >> >> Some text. >> >> \starttopica >> Some text to explain a certain topic, called topica. >> \stoptopica >> >> Some more text about topica. (See discussion on \at{page}[topica]) >> >> \stoptext >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To avoid any misunderstanding: this is no longer a problem since I have been given excellent advice. But it intrigues me. Why can some identifiers, for example of figures, be used for internal references and others not? > > In this case, I'd say it's because you're defining a delimited text > style which can be used in multiple places. Your document could have > five hundred \starttopica...\stoptopica blocks on different pages. > A figure identifier, on the other hand, is meant to be unique. > > Pont Hi Pont, Thanks for your comment. I realized this. There would of course be only one "\starttopica...\stoptopica block" in my text. If I would like to use delimited texts in this manner for several different topics, I would simply give them different names. Each topic its own name, like [topicb], [topicc], etc. Like you would do if you wanted to use slightly different types of blockquote in your document. So my question: "Why can some identifiers, for example of figures, be used for internal references and others not?" remains unanswered. 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