From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/78359 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Schmitz Thomas A." Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Bibliography, unicode strings, @ELECTRONIC, sorting and bibtex Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:48:50 +0200 Message-ID: <90C997B7-D96B-473B-B208-FF4DD79BCF0F@uni-bonn.de> References: <20120918122858.265bbad1@homerow> <20120918142533.24fb2c53@homerow> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1486\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347976160 31826 80.91.229.3 (18 Sep 2012 13:49:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:49:20 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Sep 18 15:49:25 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TDyB1-0006vm-NA for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43081101F8; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5QXaIYaLeiGb; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E7D101E9; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305F1101E9 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id icIg2OjBKwS6 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786DE101E0 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from uni-bonn.de (mail.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.113]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q8IDn6Lc009322 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:06 +0200 Original-Received: from [87.178.35.190] (account tschmit1@uni-bonn.de HELO [192.168.0.31]) by fe2.uni-bonn.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPSA id 25775693 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20120918142533.24fb2c53@homerow> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1486) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=131.220.15.113; country=DE; region=07; city=Bonn; latitude=50.7333; longitude=7.1000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50.7333,7.1000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0RI0BN6KG - 250f028fea93 - 20120918 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:78359 Archived-At: On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: > = > This doesn't work, either: > = > \setupbibtex [database=3Dsample] > \setuppublications [alternative=3Dapa, criterium=3Dcite, sorttype=3Dautho= r] > \starttext > \cite[hh2010a] > \cite[Eijkhout1991] > \placepublications > \stoptext > = This works for me, I get Eijkhout sorted before Hagen. > = > I'm aware of that. So it basically boils down to the fact that > bibliographies are not popular among ConTeXt users (including Hans) > and therefore much functionality is not properly implemented or > cared for. And BibTeX is used since it understands the semantics of > bib files, although a pure ConTeXt/Lua solution would be possible. > Without BibTeX this functionality would be missing since no one is > willing to implement a parser for .bib databases. > = > If I only had time=85 Yes, had we but world enough and time=85 Anyway, Hans began playing with tr= ansforming bibtex to xml and loading this. There is no user interface yet, = but if you want to see what's possible, have a look at bibl-bib.lua and bib= l-tst.lua Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________