From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/65799 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans van der Meer Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: error updating beta WAS: beta Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:27:10 +0100 Message-ID: <916798F4-866C-4430-9DD6-5F19FD0B6387@uva.nl> References: <4D46E824.2040505@wxs.nl> <20110201014015.4ba83f91@glyph> <4D47C650.5050001@wxs.nl> <20110201163453.7147760b@glyph> <4D482B03.6020209@wxs.nl> <48EC1485-5EE5-441B-AF4E-66C2DBE38005@uni-koblenz.de> <4D487B5F.1060705@wxs.nl> <5B829557-A357-4ADA-B357-B3679634F882@uva.nl> <4D49490B.2000808@wxs.nl> <874o8mvcav.fsf@micropit.couberia.bzh> <8762t2cl0f.fsf@micropit.couberia.bzh> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296674857 7651 80.91.229.12 (2 Feb 2011 19:27:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:27:37 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Feb 02 20:27:32 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PkiMW-0005N8-E0 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:27:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA391CAA9B; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:27:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id RNJXEHtc+fUI; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:27:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8B2CAA77; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:27:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48826CAA77 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:27:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id clIxghiwAZU6 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:27:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (filter1-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.69]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEB7CAA70 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:27:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p12JRAmC003472 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:27:11 +0100 Original-Received: from elhalyn-ethernet.fritz.box (a82-95-102-36.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.102.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p12JRADb058610 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:27:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from H.vanderMeer@uva.nl) In-Reply-To: <8762t2cl0f.fsf@micropit.couberia.bzh> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=194.109.24.36; country=NL; latitude=52.5000; longitude=5.7500; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5000,5.7500&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 06E37raLu - 8681550d1512 - 20110202 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.69 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:65799 Archived-At: On 2 feb 2011, at 20:08, Peter M=FCnster wrote: > Vnpenguin writes: > = >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 13:41, Peter M=FCnster wrote: >>> = >>>> no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time wit= h a >>>> fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there >>> = >>> Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions? >>> mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time >>> mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv >> = >> Yes, I like this idea. I don't care about mkii, nor pdftex. > = > In the first place, this idea was meant to make Hans' life easier. > (not the user's life... ;-) > = I strongly support the idea of freezing mkii, apart from repairing obvious = bugs in the existing codebase. It will free precious resources and save val= uable time. Moreover imho concentrating on mkiv not hampered by compatabili= ty issues because of mkii, can only add to its stability. = (It is just like evolution or maybe call it progress. Imagine both our prim= ate ancestors and the dinosaurs being maintained at the same time? Where wo= uld we be? ;-) Hans van der Meer ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________