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From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: sorting languages
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:48:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91696074-8d6e-62f7-5abb-0b7e598df05f@wxs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35f96439-7e37-5145-2ba6-37becb0f333c@gmx.es>

On 3/21/2017 6:19 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 03/21/2017 11:08 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 3/20/2017 10:45 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>> On 03/20/2017 10:28 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>>> Diacritics don‘t affect to Greek alphabetic sorting. [...]
>>
>> then you probably want replacements too:
>
> After updating to latest beta (2017.03.21 14:21), I’m afraid I still get
> wrong alphabetic sorting for both Spanish and ancient Greek texts.
>
> See http://www.ousia.tk/grc-order.pdf (and its source file
> http://www.ousia.tk/grc-order.tex).
>
> In Spanish, acute accented vowels are sorted after their unaccented
> versions.
>
> In ancient Greek, some words are simply misplaced.
>
> I don’t know what I am missing. In the suite, Linux 32bit contains
> luateX-1.0.3. I don’t know whether this might affect to word sorting.
>
> I must confess that I don’t understand why replacements require Greek
> letters with diacritics to be converted to the Greek letter without
> diacritic and a Latin character. Or why replacements are needed at all.
>
> I mean, I understand that "ä", "ö", "ü" are sorted in German in three
> different ways. But these are different letters, after all.

well, you want alphas with some diacretics to come out in a well defined 
order not some random way .. there's always some order needed

> If diacritics don’t affect to sort order in Greek, which is the use of
> the replacements?
>
>   { "α", "αa" }, { "ά", "αb" }, { "ὰ", "αc" }, { "ὰ", "αd" }
>
> In the line above, isn’t "ὰ" replaced by two different values? Is this ok?
>
> Many thanks for your help,
>
>
> Pablo
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-21 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-20 21:28 Pablo Rodriguez
2017-03-20 21:45 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2017-03-21 10:08   ` Hans Hagen
2017-03-21 17:19     ` Pablo Rodriguez
2017-03-21 17:44       ` Wolfgang Schuster
2017-03-21 17:59         ` Pablo Rodriguez
2017-03-21 17:48       ` Hans Hagen [this message]

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