* \startquotation and citations
@ 2020-03-26 13:29 Michael Guravage
2020-03-26 13:56 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Michael Guravage @ 2020-03-26 13:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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Greetings,
I would like to add a citation to a block quotation. Wolfgang proposed a
solution <https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg55956.html>back
in May 2011. With \star-stopquotation, the left quotation mark protrudes to
the left of the text. With Wolfgang's solution, the quotation marks are
aligned with the text. For consistency's sake, I need cited and non-cited
quotations to appear alike.
A lot has changed in the last nine years. Is there a newer way to
achieve this behavior?
Cheers,
Michael
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* Re: \startquotation and citations
2020-03-26 13:29 \startquotation and citations Michael Guravage
@ 2020-03-26 13:56 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2020-03-26 14:31 ` Michael Guravage
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-03-26 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Michael Guravage
Michael Guravage schrieb am 26.03.2020 um 14:29:
> Greetings,
>
> I would like to add a citation to a block quotation. Wolfgang proposed a
> solution
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg55956.html>back in
> May 2011. With \star-stopquotation, the left quotation mark protrudes to
> the left of the text. With Wolfgang's solution, the quotation marks are
> aligned with the text. For consistency's sake, I need cited and
> non-cited quotations to appear alike.
>
> A lot has changed in the last nine years. Is there a newer way to
> achieve this behavior?
You can use the userdata environment to create a custom environment with
optional arguments.
\startsetups[userdata:extendedquotation]
\startnarrow[middle=4em]
“\getinlineuserdata”\userdataparameter{source}
\stopnarrow
\stopsetups
\defineuserdataalternative
[extendedquotation]
[renderingsetup=userdata:extendedquotation]
\defineuserdata
[extendedquotation]
[alternative=extendedquotation,
before=\blank,
after=\blank]
\starttext
\input tufte
\startuserdata[extendedquotation][source=\footnote{See Tufte …}]
\input tufte
\stopuserdata
\input tufte
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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2020-03-26 13:56 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2020-03-26 14:31 ` Michael Guravage
2020-03-26 15:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Michael Guravage @ 2020-03-26 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thank you Wolfgang,
Now is there a way to persuade the quotation marks to protrude?
Cheers,
Michael
\startsetups[userdata:extendedquotation]
\startnarrow[]
“\getinlineuserdata”\userdataparameter{source}
\stopnarrow
\stopsetups
\defineuserdataalternative
[extendedquotation]
[renderingsetup=userdata:extendedquotation]
\defineuserdata
[extendedquotation]
[alternative=extendedquotation,
before=\blank,
after=\blank]
\starttext
\input tufte \blank
\startquotation %% Quotation marks protrude
\input tufte
\stopquotation
\startuserdata[extendedquotation][source=\footnote{See Tufte …}] %%
Quotation marks do not protrude
\input tufte
\stopuserdata
\stoptext
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 2:56 PM Wolfgang Schuster <
wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael Guravage schrieb am 26.03.2020 um 14:29:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I would like to add a citation to a block quotation. Wolfgang proposed a
> > solution
> > <https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg55956.html>back in
> > May 2011. With \star-stopquotation, the left quotation mark protrudes to
> > the left of the text. With Wolfgang's solution, the quotation marks are
> > aligned with the text. For consistency's sake, I need cited and
> > non-cited quotations to appear alike.
> >
> > A lot has changed in the last nine years. Is there a newer way to
> > achieve this behavior?
>
> You can use the userdata environment to create a custom environment with
> optional arguments.
>
> \startsetups[userdata:extendedquotation]
> \startnarrow[middle=4em]
> “\getinlineuserdata”\userdataparameter{source}
> \stopnarrow
> \stopsetups
>
> \defineuserdataalternative
> [extendedquotation]
> [renderingsetup=userdata:extendedquotation]
>
> \defineuserdata
> [extendedquotation]
> [alternative=extendedquotation,
> before=\blank,
> after=\blank]
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>
> \startuserdata[extendedquotation][source=\footnote{See Tufte …}]
> \input tufte
> \stopuserdata
>
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
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* \startquotation and citations
@ 2011-05-23 13:39 Oliver Buerschaper
2011-05-23 15:18 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Oliver Buerschaper @ 2011-05-23 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear all,
I'm struggling with quotation blocks and proper placing of citations… In an ideal world I'd be striving for something like this:
\startquotation[source=…]
\input tufte
\stopquotation
where … could be either of:
1. a simple string: {Edward Tufte},
2. a citation command: \cite[Tuf:yyyy]
3. a footnote: \footnote{See \cite[Tuf:yyyy]}
This should be typeset immediately after the closing delimiter and well before \stopnarrower.
In the real world (and with a deadline approaching rapidly) I've tried two approaches so far:
1. A hack dating back three years which bypasses the delimitedtext mechanism.
---
\long\def\startextendedquotation[#1]#2\stopextendedquotation
{\bgroup\par
\blank[halfline]
\startnarrower[4em]
\symbol[leftquotation]%
#2\removeunwantedspaces
\symbol[rightquotation]#1
\stopnarrower
\blank[halfline]
\par\egroup}
\starttext
\input tufte
\startextendedquotation[\footnote{See Tufte…}]
\input tufte
\stopextendedquotation
\input tufte
\stoptext
---
Here the footnote actually appears, however, the beginning of the quotation looks weird (and setting up margins etc. is a bit messy).
2. Another hack which employs delimitedtext but abuses its closing delimiter option:
---
\setupdelimitedtext
[quotation]
[leftmargin=4em,
rightmargin=4em,
spacebefore=halfline,
spaceafter=halfline]
\starttext
\input tufte
\bgroup
\setupdelimitedtext
[quotation]
[right={\symbol[rightquotation]\footnote{See Tufte…}}]
\startquotation
\input tufte
\stopquotation
\egroup
\input tufte
\stoptext
---
This approach places the opening delimiter nicely in the margin of the quotation block but sadly swallows the footnote (ordinary strings seem fine though).
How to combine the looks of 2 with the footnotes of 1?
Many thanks,
Oliver
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2011-05-23 13:39 Oliver Buerschaper
@ 2011-05-23 15:18 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-05-23 15:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Am 23.05.2011 um 15:39 schrieb Oliver Buerschaper:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm struggling with quotation blocks and proper placing of citations… In an ideal world I'd be striving for something like this:
>
> \startquotation[source=…]
> \input tufte
> \stopquotation
>
> where … could be either of:
>
> 1. a simple string: {Edward Tufte},
> 2. a citation command: \cite[Tuf:yyyy]
> 3. a footnote: \footnote{See \cite[Tuf:yyyy]}
>
> This should be typeset immediately after the closing delimiter and well before \stopnarrower.
\usemodule[annotation]
\definenarrower
[NarrowQuotation]
[middle=4em]
\define[2]\QuotationCommand
{\startNarrowQuotation
“#2”\annotationparameter{source}%
\stopNarrowQuotation}
\defineannotation
[extendedquotation]
[alternative=command,
command=\QuotationCommand,
spacebefore=halfline]
\starttext
\input tufte
\startextendedquotation[source=\footnote{See Tufte …}]
\input tufte
\stopextendedquotation
\input tufte
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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