From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/36992 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Valle Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: encoding/compiling issues (macosx) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:03:18 +0200 Message-ID: <93BD12DA-A36A-4E82-8505-B4071F3B6CD1@unito.it> References: <6faad9f00710120332w4ed9f995j2444b7e829d445c1@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1135146555==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1192543460 19354 80.91.229.12 (16 Oct 2007 14:04:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:04:20 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Oct 16 16:04:19 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ihn1s-0006u8-Ey for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:04:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF43C1FB4B; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:04:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23681-01-6; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559F01FB2D; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AD61FB2D for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23681-01-5 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:03:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-out.unito.it (opterone.unito.it [130.192.119.88]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A769B1FAEE for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:03:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mail-out.unito.it (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) id l9GE3Txv028769 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:03:29 +0200 Original-Received: from [192.168.3.104] (multilabfw-nat3.multilab.unito.it [130.192.205.50]) by mail-out.unito.it (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id l9GE3P3M028559; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:03:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00710120332w4ed9f995j2444b7e829d445c1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Inrete-Amavisjob-Virus-Scanned: PDAmail Multiple Antivirus with ClamAv X-Inrete-Amavisjob-Service-Runned: 6 (l9GE3P3M028559) X-Inrete-Amavisjob-Service-Disabled: No Service disabled (l9GE3P3M028559) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:36992 Archived-At: --===============1135146555== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-17--512166634 --Apple-Mail-17--512166634 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Thanks Mojca, sorry for the late reply but we had to test together. > The problem is that your utf-8 text doesn't use normal "eacute", but > rather "e + combining acute accant", and pdfTeX will never be able to > handle that. Ok, understood, good to know it. > TeX needs accent specification before the character. A combining > accent after the character cannot be handled, at least not in pdfTeX - > XeTeX and LuaTeX should be fine with it. Voil=E0, here's the problem. We're having different behaviors usign =20 XeTeX, while ConTeXt works the same on thwo machines. My XeConTeXt =20 works ok. The one on Miriam's machine not. > Can you try to convert the text again using > pdftotext -enc UTF-8 your-pdf-document.pdf > and copy that text into the main document? We have already done it. This solved the problems with accented =20 glyphs but not with other glyphs (apostrpohes, dots) >> 2. if we compile with XeConTeXt the resulting pdf simply skips the =20= >> accents >> (e.g an accented glyph is rendered non accented) > > The default font (LM) doesn't work properly with any version of > ConTeXt prior to 2007.09.28. But if you load some system font, the > accents should work OK. Ah! that's exactly so. We are experiencing the difference: the =20 problem disappears with system fonts. > If you are using XeTeX, I strongly recommend you to use both the same > version of ConTeXt. The one from January and the one form September > differ considerably. Ok. Thanks a lot for your support -a- -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who =20= doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this =20 guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with =20 me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss =20 Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) --Apple-Mail-17--512166634 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Mojca,=A0

sorry for the late reply = but we had to test together.

The problem is that your utf-8 = text doesn't use normal "eacute", but
rather = "e + combining acute accant", and pdfTeX will never be able to
handle that.

Ok, understood, good to = know it.

TeX = needs accent specification before the character. A combining
accent after the character cannot be handled, at = least not in pdfTeX -
XeTeX and LuaTeX should be = fine with it.

Voil=E0, here's the = problem. We're having different behaviors usign XeTeX, while ConTeXt = works the same on thwo machines. My XeConTeXt works ok. The one on = Miriam's machine not.=A0

Can you = try to convert the text again using
=A0=A0 pdftotext -enc UTF-8 = your-pdf-document.pdf
and copy that text into the = main document?

We have already done it. = This solved the problems with accented glyphs but not with other = glyphs
(apostrpohes, dots)

=
2. if we compile with = XeConTeXt the resulting pdf simply skips the accents
(e.g an accented glyph is rendered non = accented)

The default font (LM) doesn't = work properly with any version of
ConTeXt prior = to 2007.09.28. But if you load some system font, the
accents should work OK.

Ah! that's exactly so. We = are experiencing the difference: the problem disappears with system = fonts.


If you are using XeTeX, I strongly recommend you to = use both the same
version of ConTeXt. The one from = January and the one form September
differ = considerably.

Ok.

Thanks a lot for your = support

-a-




-----------------------------= ---------------------
Andrea = Valle
--------------------------------------------------
CIRMA - DAMS
Universit=E0 degli Studi di = Torino
= --------------------------------------------------


I did this interview where I just = mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in = university, right? I was in this strip = club giving this guy a lap = dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault = with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can = discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much = information.
(Annabel = Chong)


=

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