frame "thickness"

frame "thickness"

[andrea valle]

Hi to all,

sorry this should be obvious but I cannot find it in the docs.
How do I set in \setupframed the frame "thickness" (i.e. the thickness 
of the surrounding border)?

Thanks a lot

-a-


Andrea Valle
DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione
Università degli Studi di Torino
http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea
andrea.valle@unito.it

Re: frame "thickness"

[Hans Hagen]

andrea valle wrote:
> Hi to all,
>
> sorry this should be obvious but I cannot find it in the docs.
> How do I set in \setupframed the frame "thickness" (i.e. the thickness 
> of the surrounding border)?
>   
\framed[rulethickness=1mm]{Thick as can be} 



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Re: frame "thickness"

[andrea valle]

Fantastic. I'm having great time in creating a(n academic) poster with 
ConTeXt.

By the way, is there a way where the command is listed?

Thanks

-a-


On 20 Oct 2006, at 09:37, Hans Hagen wrote:

> andrea valle wrote:
>> Hi to all,
>>
>> sorry this should be obvious but I cannot find it in the docs.
>> How do I set in \setupframed the frame "thickness" (i.e. the thickness
>> of the surrounding border)?
>>
> \framed[rulethickness=1mm]{Thick as can be}
>
>
>
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Re: frame "thickness"

[andrea valle]

> By the way, is there a way where the command is listed?
>

(I mean, the option "ruledthickness" indeed)

-a-


Andrea Valle
DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione
Università degli Studi di Torino
http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea
andrea.valle@unito.it

Re: frame "thickness"

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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2006/10/20, andrea valle <valle@di.unito.it>:
>
> > By the way, is there a way where the command is listed?
> >
>
> (I mean, the option "ruledthickness" indeed)
>
> -a-
>
>
> Andrea Valle


Hi Anrea,

the option rulethickness for the framed macro is nowhere listed in
one if the manuals, it is only mentioned in the wiki als parmater
for natural Tables http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TABLE#Make_a_cell_bold
and at the page for the animated euro sign
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/EuroAnim.

It is currently missing in the commanindex setup-en.pdf (and the
neccesary file cont-en.xml).

The best sources are only the sources if you want to know  which
options are available for every command.

Wolfgang

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Re: frame "thickness"

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>  
> It is currently missing in the commanindex setup-en.pdf (and the
> neccesary file cont-en.xml).
hm, interesting since it's rather old; added
>  
Hans 

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Re: frame "thickness"

[andrea valle]

So, command list is edited by hand?
It is not possible to have something like doxygen to generate a command 
list from source?

Just for my curiousity.
(It will be always updated, and won't require additional efforts).

-a-

On 20 Oct 2006, at 11:38, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>
>>
>> It is currently missing in the commanindex setup-en.pdf (and the
>> neccesary file cont-en.xml).
> hm, interesting since it's rather old; added
>>
> Hans
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Re: frame "thickness"

[Hans Hagen]

andrea valle wrote:
> So, command list is edited by hand?
> It is not possible to have something like doxygen to generate a command 
> list from source?
>   
even then it has to be defined i.e. edited ; maybe some day it will be 
possible to generate the \setup commands from the formal definition [the 
reverse] (and also add some checking) but i'll happily wait with that 
till i have a faster computer.

spreading the definitions across the source (i.e. splitting up 
cont-en.xml) is an option but we don't gain anything; actually, long ago 
those defs were all over the place
> Just for my curiousity.
> (It will be always updated, and won't require additional efforts).
>   
tex is not a regular programming language -) 

Hans 


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Re: frame "thickness"

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 2006/10/20, andrea valle <valle@di.unito.it>:
>> 
>> > By the way, is there a way where the command is listed?
>> >
>> 
>> (I mean, the option "ruledthickness" indeed)
>> 
>> -a-
>> 
>> 
>> Andrea Valle
>
>
> Hi Anrea,
>
> the option rulethickness for the framed macro is nowhere listed in
> one if the manuals, it is only mentioned in the wiki als parmater
> for natural Tables http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TABLE#Make_a_cell_bold
> and at the page for the animated euro sign
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/EuroAnim.
>
> It is currently missing in the commanindex setup-en.pdf (and the
> neccesary file cont-en.xml).
>
> The best sources are only the sources if you want to know  which
> options are available for every command.

True indeed. This is what I usually do to find out about an option. Search 
texwebshow for options. If it is there, read the manual for the 
description.

If I do not find any relevant option, but know that ConTeXt ought to have 
an option for what I want (which usually means that it will), look in the 
sources. My strategy for searching the sources involves finding out which 
source file defines the option. (search on sources.contextgarden.net work 
for most cases, I use grep for the cases which are more trickier to find). 
Most (all?) commands come with an accompanying \setup command, which 
initiallizes all the options for the command. This way, one knows atleast 
which options a command will accept. In most cases guessing the 
functionality of an option is easy, as ConTeXt uses a consistent interface 
for everything. Sometimes, when I have no clue what that option does, I 
search where the option is used. Most options are stored using 
\getparameters[\??xx] where xx is a two letter abbreviation. Then you can 
search for \@@xxoption to see where it is used. That way, you can usually 
guess what an option does.

The sources also have some examples that are usually useful in 
understanding a few tricks about the command.

If I still can not figure out, I ask on the mailing list.

Aditya

Re: frame "thickness"

[andrea valle]

Thanks for the search algorithm :-)

Best
-a-

On 20 Oct 2006, at 16:52, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> 2006/10/20, andrea valle <valle@di.unito.it>:
>>>
>>>> By the way, is there a way where the command is listed?
>>>>
>>>
>>> (I mean, the option "ruledthickness" indeed)
>>>
>>> -a-
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrea Valle
>>
>>
>> Hi Anrea,
>>
>> the option rulethickness for the framed macro is nowhere listed in
>> one if the manuals, it is only mentioned in the wiki als parmater
>> for natural Tables 
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TABLE#Make_a_cell_bold
>> and at the page for the animated euro sign
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/EuroAnim.
>>
>> It is currently missing in the commanindex setup-en.pdf (and the
>> neccesary file cont-en.xml).
>>
>> The best sources are only the sources if you want to know  which
>> options are available for every command.
>
> True indeed. This is what I usually do to find out about an option. 
> Search
> texwebshow for options. If it is there, read the manual for the
> description.
>
> If I do not find any relevant option, but know that ConTeXt ought to 
> have
> an option for what I want (which usually means that it will), look in 
> the
> sources. My strategy for searching the sources involves finding out 
> which
> source file defines the option. (search on sources.contextgarden.net 
> work
> for most cases, I use grep for the cases which are more trickier to 
> find).
> Most (all?) commands come with an accompanying \setup command, which
> initiallizes all the options for the command. This way, one knows 
> atleast
> which options a command will accept. In most cases guessing the
> functionality of an option is easy, as ConTeXt uses a consistent 
> interface
> for everything. Sometimes, when I have no clue what that option does, I
> search where the option is used. Most options are stored using
> \getparameters[\??xx] where xx is a two letter abbreviation. Then you 
> can
> search for \@@xxoption to see where it is used. That way, you can 
> usually
> guess what an option does.
>
> The sources also have some examples that are usually useful in
> understanding a few tricks about the command.
>
> If I still can not figure out, I ask on the mailing list.
>
> Aditya
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
Andrea Valle
DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione
Università degli Studi di Torino
http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea
andrea.valle@unito.it