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Wise : > I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the exact > error message, but I have not received it yet. But he did say that his > printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information from a > pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes. From that > header information they will have the ability to render individual pages > rather than the whole document. For example, they could request page 264 and > render that single page as a jpeg. This sounds like "web optimized" PDFs, those contain a second object index at the start ("normal" PDFs have it at the end), so a *browser* can request selected pages from the *webserver* without loading the whole document. It's meant as a web technology, and I never heard of anyone using it in a print workflow. But it's not impossible. Tha has *nothing* to do with tagged PDF! "Tagged" is a technology to enable re-flowing text contents to e.g. small devices or extracting of content for alternative readers, e.g. screenreaders. PDFs for print should *not* be tagged in this way, for it can confuse a print workflow. Printshops should adhere to printing standards like PDF/X-1a and PDF/X-3 - and these never need web optimization or tagging! Greetlings, Hraban (printing engineer and PDF workflow techie) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________