From: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>,
"Weber, Matthias" <matweber@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: future versions
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:50:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <975c5665-107d-45b6-40aa-32eeb981094b@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8934110E-4E11-4AE1-B6BA-63982B773426@indiana.edu>
On 7/25/2018 3:12 PM, Weber, Matthias wrote:
> I have an entirely different suggestion, possibly fitting the description of a possible “lean” version.
>
> One important feature of TeX has been the longevity of the documents. This is of course of little interest to those of us who
> typeset a book/journal for publishing and care little about it when it’s done. But there is an interest in keeping the documents available in the long term,
> meaning decades and possibly centuries (making assumptions about the human race here). TeX has survived the transition from dvi/ps to pdf, and it is probably fair
> to assume that pdf won’t be around forever. But it is probably also fair to assume that there will be straightforward ways to generate from TeX sources documents in a
> future PDF replacement.
so far no replacemtn showed up (ok, html is an alternatiev but that's a
different thing) .. even pdf 2.0 (which we support) isn't revolutionary
different from 1.7
> This is in particular of concern in the scientific community where mathematical/physical/chemical formulas and diagrams are very hard to parse semantically
> (which, admittedly, might change in the future, too). For instance, the preprint server at arXiv.org has been storing scientific preprints since 1991, preferably in TeX or LaTeX.
> It would be an enormous benefit if the arXiv would accept a ConTeXt version. Scientific journals might then follow suit.
> At the moment I believe they use LaTeX from TeXLive 2016.
>
> It is of course a question whether a potentially much larger user base is desirable, because it likely means more requests for support/documentation etc.
I don't think that a larger user base is a problem. It might actually
trigger users into writing more manuals, wiki entries, tutorials. But
'marketing' in a world where tex is equivalent to latex is not trivial.
> In any case, I would very much appreciate another “frozen” release like MK II that one can use for documents that need to be retypeset over years
> (like my lecture notes that need an update every few years).
When we have luatex 1.10 that will be easier because older code can run
on a newer engine then.
But even then, if we make snapshots that can be downloaded for a long
time, we need some way to recognize them (by year?).
Using snapshots in parallel is no big deal. One problem is that one also
needs to save the fonts (it will probably take a few years before the
lm/gyre collection is long term stable).
> Matthias
>
>> On Jul 25, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>
>> On 7/25/2018 12:03 PM, Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica wrote:
>>> Agree wholeheartedly, and possibly also support for Tibetan.
>> define support ... what is needed
>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-25 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-24 18:43 Hans Hagen
2018-07-24 19:07 ` Hans van der Meer
2018-07-24 20:35 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-07-24 20:30 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-07-24 21:02 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2018-07-24 23:21 ` Hans Hagen
2018-08-21 8:00 ` future versions - synctex Procházka Lukáš Ing.
2018-08-21 8:33 ` Hans Hagen
2018-08-21 13:04 ` Aditya Mahajan
2018-08-21 13:19 ` Hans Hagen
2018-08-21 14:46 ` Aditya Mahajan
2018-08-21 15:17 ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-25 1:29 ` future versions Rik Kabel
2018-07-25 8:19 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2018-07-25 13:50 ` Rik Kabel
2018-07-25 16:06 ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-25 16:18 ` Alan Braslau
2018-07-25 17:01 ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-25 11:36 ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-25 7:45 ` Robert Zydenbos
2018-07-25 10:03 ` Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica
2018-07-25 12:50 ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-25 13:12 ` Weber, Matthias
2018-07-25 17:50 ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2018-07-25 20:22 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2018-07-25 11:38 ` Hans Hagen
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