From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10794 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2023 00:18:02 -0000 Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (5.39.185.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Jun 2023 00:18:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699DD1C3963; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:17:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id muCa9kGJ4Vzx; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:17:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826E01C38F7; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:17:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8831C38F7 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:17:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02uEHsqqFRmQ for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:17:29 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=213.125.118.53; helo=mail.rna.nl; envelope-from=gerben.wierda@rna.nl; receiver= Received: from mail.rna.nl (mail.rna.nl [213.125.118.53]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAC641C15A9 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:17:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (hermione.rna.nl [192.168.2.86]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by albus.rna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 72CCB1873F594 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:17:27 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rna.nl; s=dkim_rsa2048; t=1686961047; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=eQkfe+h8uSZNjp4qQMRrLL2IcN8cxu89/A+mBFiBaDs=; b=k6z5qPhjETc9+4faUAg5cyLU/776yzyAcKzcQ4/cMzi04aF988E/EiNtGkVfZCQL/c5WyC tqdOm/5brGEzYnNDuLG5RXqz3M9peYNOAfrczDuYoyLseReBpv9GxPmOq2oIiGjryVx4/F E4M+g12oIbZ45z2wHMhqrX8UmMozD9awqJupO7GVT5WgOkjsQaxD++QestvSSVz5KaYlq8 o/BIKAfIIfSqmqKx6rwAe1AYYeHfxthOFvTBNTHIzOBhETeAli2FYHVHOusQg1tjr+Sx+F F5Ag5+fAfRLLyT/YYjYACMPBe/yfGYc9gLY4uaD1YJnEenQEJ3jvGp5pce8opg== Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.3\)) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:17:25 +0200 References: <161B7310-CACD-4112-9715-4C6F8AFD9F95@rna.nl> <2E5D37C1-1F14-455A-8182-4565F671C0D1@rna.nl> To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <2E5D37C1-1F14-455A-8182-4565F671C0D1@rna.nl> Message-Id: <97F50308-B304-4D14-8CF7-FC913FF5668B@rna.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.3) Subject: [NTG-context] Can I use 'extend' and 'slant' in \definefontfamily to create fake italics etc.? X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.38 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Gerben Wierda via ntg-context Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Gerben Wierda Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6029437778092906559==" Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" --===============6029437778092906559== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E80882CD-5CE3-4BED-A1CE-166FCD2FBFF2" --Apple-Mail=_E80882CD-5CE3-4BED-A1CE-166FCD2FBFF2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Libertinus Sans does not have Bold Italic. With this, I come close in = ConTeXt: \definefontfeature [fakeitalic] [slant=3D0.25] \definefontfamily [archimate] [ss] [Libertinus Sans] [rscale=3D1.0395] [tf=3Dstyle:Regular, bf=3Dstyle:Bold, it=3Dstyle:Italic, bi=3D{style:Bold,features:fakeitalic}] It is slightly 'thicker' and the lowercases have a somewhat lower height = percentage of the uppercases than Optima, but this is the closest I have = come. G > On 16 Jun 2023, at 18:55, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context = wrote: >=20 > Only regular, italic, bold, no bold italic (just as the Linux Bilonium = it was forked from) >=20 >> On 16 Jun 2023, at 18:39, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context = > wrote: >>=20 >> Am 16.06.23 um 18:35 schrieb Gerben Wierda via ntg-context: >>> I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually = one of the best places to find an answer. >>> I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared = style'. >>> But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more = licensing freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive = searching. The only one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the = URW Classico ones in Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in = Adobe programs like InDesign (and not TeX). >>> I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, = italic, bold, and bold-italic. >>> Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is /really/ free = (so also for commercial use) to use out there? >>=20 >> How about Libertinus Sans? >> https://github.com/alerque/libertinus = >>=20 >> Hraban >>=20 >> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an = entry to the Wiki! >>=20 >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : https://contextgarden.net >> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >=20 > Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn , = Mastodon ) > R&A IT Strategy (main site) > Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise=C2=A0Architecture = > Book: Mastering ArchiMate >=20 > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry = to the Wiki! >=20 > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn , = Mastodon ) R&A IT Strategy (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise=C2=A0Architecture = Book: Mastering ArchiMate --Apple-Mail=_E80882CD-5CE3-4BED-A1CE-166FCD2FBFF2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Libertinus Sans does not have Bold Italic. With this, I come = close in ConTeXt:

\definefontfeature [fakeitalic] [slant=3D0.25]
\definefontfamily
  [archimate]
  [ss]
  [Libertinus Sans]
  [rscale=3D1.0395]
  = [tf=3Dstyle:Regular,
   bf=3Dstyle:Bold,
   it=3Dstyle:Italic,
  =  bi=3D{style:Bold,features:fakeitalic}]

It is slightly 'thicker' and the = lowercases have a somewhat lower height percentage of the uppercases = than Optima, but this is the closest I have come.
G

On 16 Jun 2023, at 18:55, = Gerben Wierda via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

Only regular, italic, = bold, no bold italic (just as the Linux Bilonium it was forked from)

On 16 Jun 2023, at 18:39, Henning Hraban Ramm = via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

Am = 16.06.23 um 18:35 schrieb Gerben Wierda via ntg-context:
I know this is off = topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the best places = to find an answer.
I really like Optima, and what I really = like about it is the 'flared style'.
But I would like to = move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing freedom. I = haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only one = who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in = Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like = InDesign (and not TeX).
I found some flared-sans fonts, = but not one with at least regular, italic, bold, and bold-italic.
Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is = /really/ free (so also for commercial use) to use out there?

How about Libertinus Sans?
https://github.com/alerque/libertinus

Hraban

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