* split natural table over columns
@ 2006-09-26 9:35 Johan Sandblom
2006-09-26 16:28 ` Hans Hagen
2006-09-26 17:27 ` Peter Rolf
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Johan Sandblom @ 2006-09-26 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
Is it possible to make a natural table split over columns or columnsets?
For instance below I would like three cells in each column
\starttext
\startcolumns{3}
\placetable{}{
\bTABLE[split=repeat]
\dorecurse{9}{\bTR\bTD ha \eTD\eTR}
\eTABLE}
\stopcolumns
\stoptext
--
Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh
t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm
m +46735521477 Sweden
"What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the
will to find out, which is the exact opposite"
- Bertrand Russell
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread* Re: split natural table over columns 2006-09-26 9:35 split natural table over columns Johan Sandblom @ 2006-09-26 16:28 ` Hans Hagen 2006-09-26 17:27 ` Peter Rolf 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2006-09-26 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw) Johan Sandblom wrote: > Is it possible to make a natural table split over columns or columnsets? > > For instance below I would like three cells in each column > > \starttext > \startcolumns{3} > \placetable{}{ > \bTABLE[split=repeat] > \dorecurse{9}{\bTR\bTD ha \eTD\eTR} > \eTABLE} > \stopcolumns > \stoptext > > pretty complex: balancing and afterwards splitting graphics and such; beyond my current ambitions -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: split natural table over columns 2006-09-26 9:35 split natural table over columns Johan Sandblom 2006-09-26 16:28 ` Hans Hagen @ 2006-09-26 17:27 ` Peter Rolf 2006-09-26 19:14 ` Johan Sandblom 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2006-09-26 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Johan, Johan Sandblom wrote: > Is it possible to make a natural table split over columns or columnsets? > see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tables_Overview what is possible and what is not. Currently only *linetable* is supporting horizontal splitting. The syntax looks similar to TABLE, but I don't know the details (never used it). Anyhow worth a try... http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Linetable But I don't understand why you want to split a table over columns. You can reach this effect by using offsets (or empty columns if you use backgrounds or frames), beside from the (in my eyes) strange look. And how will you guarantee that a complete table line is horizontally aligned inside of columns (and pages)? Sounds like overkill to me ;) Peter > For instance below I would like three cells in each column > > \starttext > \startcolumns{3} > \placetable{}{ > \bTABLE[split=repeat] > \dorecurse{9}{\bTR\bTD ha \eTD\eTR} > \eTABLE} > \stopcolumns > \stoptext > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: split natural table over columns 2006-09-26 17:27 ` Peter Rolf @ 2006-09-26 19:14 ` Johan Sandblom 2006-09-26 21:14 ` Peter Rolf 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Johan Sandblom @ 2006-09-26 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi > But I don't understand why you want to split a table over columns. You > can reach this effect by using offsets (or empty columns if you use > backgrounds or frames), beside from the (in my eyes) strange look. And > how will you guarantee that a complete table line is horizontally > aligned inside of columns (and pages)? Sounds like overkill to me ;) I don't understand how you mean with offsets or empty columns, do you have an example? I wanted the functionality for a very narrow table in a booklet where paper economy is a great concern. It does not matter if it is horizontally aligned, a hole at the end (though ugly) might still save an entire page for other useful information. Of course it is overkill, but since every strange request on this list usually leads to a pointer to functionality implemented several years back, I figured it couldn't hurt to ask ... Johan > > Peter > > > For instance below I would like three cells in each column > > > > \starttext > > \startcolumns{3} > > \placetable{}{ > > \bTABLE[split=repeat] > > \dorecurse{9}{\bTR\bTD ha \eTD\eTR} > > \eTABLE} > > \stopcolumns > > \stoptext > > > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > -- Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite" - Bertrand Russell ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: split natural table over columns 2006-09-26 19:14 ` Johan Sandblom @ 2006-09-26 21:14 ` Peter Rolf [not found] ` <97a06f070609270025w12937d62m1880e725eb00caf1@mail.gmail.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2006-09-26 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Johan, Johan Sandblom wrote: > Hi > >> But I don't understand why you want to split a table over columns. You >> can reach this effect by using offsets (or empty columns if you use >> backgrounds or frames), beside from the (in my eyes) strange look. And >> how will you guarantee that a complete table line is horizontally >> aligned inside of columns (and pages)? Sounds like overkill to me ;) > > I don't understand how you mean with offsets or empty columns, do you > have an example? I wanted the functionality for a very narrow table in > a booklet where paper economy is a great concern. It does not matter > if it is horizontally aligned, a hole at the end (though ugly) might > still save an entire page for other useful information. Of course it > is overkill, but since every strange request on this list usually > leads to a pointer to functionality implemented several years back, I > figured it couldn't hurt to ask ... > Sorry, I have missed that your test table has only one column (really narrow). So offset and empty column are pretty useless. :) I thought there were 9 table columns, that should be split over the three page columns. So all depends on the exact size of your table. Can you make a minimal example? Greetings, Peter > Johan > >> Peter >> >>> For instance below I would like three cells in each column >>> >>> \starttext >>> \startcolumns{3} >>> \placetable{}{ >>> \bTABLE[split=repeat] >>> \dorecurse{9}{\bTR\bTD ha \eTD\eTR} >>> \eTABLE} >>> \stopcolumns >>> \stoptext >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ntg-context mailing list >> ntg-context@ntg.nl >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: split natural table over columns [not found] ` <97a06f070609270025w12937d62m1880e725eb00caf1@mail.gmail.com> @ 2006-09-27 9:14 ` Peter Rolf 2006-09-27 9:28 ` Johan Sandblom 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2006-09-27 9:14 UTC (permalink / raw) Johan Sandblom wrote: > What is missing from the example that started the thread? > Nothing, but I think it would be a waste of time. Instead of a one column table (of this size) I would use \startitemize[n,columns,three] or simply change the orientation of the table and use column spanning (columns.pdf). In my eyes a one column table is the wrong approach to present such content. Peter > Johan > > 2006/9/26, Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net>: >> Hi Johan, >> >> Johan Sandblom wrote: >> > Hi >> > >> >> But I don't understand why you want to split a table over columns. You >> >> can reach this effect by using offsets (or empty columns if you use >> >> backgrounds or frames), beside from the (in my eyes) strange look. And >> >> how will you guarantee that a complete table line is horizontally >> >> aligned inside of columns (and pages)? Sounds like overkill to me ;) >> > >> > I don't understand how you mean with offsets or empty columns, do you >> > have an example? I wanted the functionality for a very narrow table in >> > a booklet where paper economy is a great concern. It does not matter >> > if it is horizontally aligned, a hole at the end (though ugly) might >> > still save an entire page for other useful information. Of course it >> > is overkill, but since every strange request on this list usually >> > leads to a pointer to functionality implemented several years back, I >> > figured it couldn't hurt to ask ... >> > >> Sorry, I have missed that your test table has only one column (really >> narrow). So offset and empty column are pretty useless. :) >> I thought there were 9 table columns, that should be split over the >> three page columns. >> >> So all depends on the exact size of your table. Can you make a minimal >> example? >> >> Greetings, Peter >> >> > Johan >> > >> >> Peter >> >> >> >>> For instance below I would like three cells in each column >> >>> >> >>> \starttext >> >>> \startcolumns{3} >> >>> \placetable{}{ >> >>> \bTABLE[split=repeat] >> >>> \dorecurse{9}{\bTR\bTD ha \eTD\eTR} >> >>> \eTABLE} >> >>> \stopcolumns >> >>> \stoptext >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> ntg-context mailing list >> >> ntg-context@ntg.nl >> >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: split natural table over columns 2006-09-27 9:14 ` Peter Rolf @ 2006-09-27 9:28 ` Johan Sandblom 2006-09-27 12:00 ` Peter Rolf 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Johan Sandblom @ 2006-09-27 9:28 UTC (permalink / raw) Good point, in the actual case there were two columns, a name and a number. The reason for using the table is align the name to the left and the number to the right. So a more realistic example is something like \starttext \bTABLE \setupTABLE[c][1][align=right] \setupTABLE[c][2][align=left] \dorecurse{10}{ \bTR\bTD foo\eTD\bTD 123\eTD\eTR \bTR\bTD b \eTD\bTD 123456\eTD\eTR} \eTABLE \stoptext Thank you for your interest. Regards, Johan 2006/9/27, Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net>: > Johan Sandblom wrote: > > What is missing from the example that started the thread? > > > Nothing, but I think it would be a waste of time. Instead of a one > column table (of this size) I would use > \startitemize[n,columns,three] or simply change the orientation of the > table and use column spanning (columns.pdf). > In my eyes a one column table is the wrong approach to present such content. > > Peter > > > Johan > > > > 2006/9/26, Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net>: > >> Hi Johan, > >> > >> Johan Sandblom wrote: > >> > Hi > >> > > >> >> But I don't understand why you want to split a table over columns. You > >> >> can reach this effect by using offsets (or empty columns if you use > >> >> backgrounds or frames), beside from the (in my eyes) strange look. And > >> >> how will you guarantee that a complete table line is horizontally > >> >> aligned inside of columns (and pages)? Sounds like overkill to me ;) > >> > > >> > I don't understand how you mean with offsets or empty columns, do you > >> > have an example? I wanted the functionality for a very narrow table in > >> > a booklet where paper economy is a great concern. It does not matter > >> > if it is horizontally aligned, a hole at the end (though ugly) might > >> > still save an entire page for other useful information. Of course it > >> > is overkill, but since every strange request on this list usually > >> > leads to a pointer to functionality implemented several years back, I > >> > figured it couldn't hurt to ask ... > >> > > >> Sorry, I have missed that your test table has only one column (really > >> narrow). So offset and empty column are pretty useless. :) > >> I thought there were 9 table columns, that should be split over the > >> three page columns. > >> > >> So all depends on the exact size of your table. Can you make a minimal > >> example? > >> > >> Greetings, Peter > >> > >> > Johan > >> > > >> >> Peter > >> >> > >> >>> For instance below I would like three cells in each column > >> >>> > >> >>> \starttext > >> >>> \startcolumns{3} > >> >>> \placetable{}{ > >> >>> \bTABLE[split=repeat] > >> >>> \dorecurse{9}{\bTR\bTD ha \eTD\eTR} > >> >>> \eTABLE} > >> >>> \stopcolumns > >> >>> \stoptext > >> >>> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> ntg-context mailing list > >> >> ntg-context@ntg.nl > >> >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > -- Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite" - Bertrand Russell ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: split natural table over columns 2006-09-27 9:28 ` Johan Sandblom @ 2006-09-27 12:00 ` Peter Rolf 2006-09-27 12:12 ` Peter Rolf 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2006-09-27 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Johan Sandblom wrote: > Good point, in the actual case there were two columns, a name and a > number. The reason for using the table is align the name to the left > and the number to the right. So a more realistic example is something > like > > \starttext > \bTABLE > \setupTABLE[c][1][align=right] > \setupTABLE[c][2][align=left] > \dorecurse{10}{ > \bTR\bTD foo\eTD\bTD 123\eTD\eTR > \bTR\bTD b \eTD\bTD 123456\eTD\eTR} > \eTABLE > \stoptext > So there is no need to split that table. I would suggest to only rearrange it a bit for your column layout. Also TABLE is not the best choise here (I'm no table expert, but I think table is better here). %\SetTableToWidth\hsize \starttable[|l|r|l|r|] \dorecurse{10}{% \VL foo \NC 123 \VL[2] b \NC 12345 \VL\AR} \stoptable For more details about table see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table HTH, Peter > Thank you for your interest. > > Regards, Johan > > > 2006/9/27, Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net>: >> Johan Sandblom wrote: >>> What is missing from the example that started the thread? >>> >> Nothing, but I think it would be a waste of time. Instead of a one >> column table (of this size) I would use >> \startitemize[n,columns,three] or simply change the orientation of the >> table and use column spanning (columns.pdf). >> In my eyes a one column table is the wrong approach to present such content. >> >> Peter >> >>> Johan >>> >>> 2006/9/26, Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net>: >>>> Hi Johan, >>>> >>>> Johan Sandblom wrote: >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>>> But I don't understand why you want to split a table over columns. You >>>>>> can reach this effect by using offsets (or empty columns if you use >>>>>> backgrounds or frames), beside from the (in my eyes) strange look. And >>>>>> how will you guarantee that a complete table line is horizontally >>>>>> aligned inside of columns (and pages)? Sounds like overkill to me ;) >>>>> I don't understand how you mean with offsets or empty columns, do you >>>>> have an example? I wanted the functionality for a very narrow table in >>>>> a booklet where paper economy is a great concern. It does not matter >>>>> if it is horizontally aligned, a hole at the end (though ugly) might >>>>> still save an entire page for other useful information. Of course it >>>>> is overkill, but since every strange request on this list usually >>>>> leads to a pointer to functionality implemented several years back, I >>>>> figured it couldn't hurt to ask ... >>>>> >>>> Sorry, I have missed that your test table has only one column (really >>>> narrow). So offset and empty column are pretty useless. :) >>>> I thought there were 9 table columns, that should be split over the >>>> three page columns. >>>> >>>> So all depends on the exact size of your table. Can you make a minimal >>>> example? >>>> >>>> Greetings, Peter >>>> >>>>> Johan >>>>> >>>>>> Peter >>>>>> >>>>>>> For instance below I would like three cells in each column >>>>>>> >>>>>>> \starttext >>>>>>> \startcolumns{3} >>>>>>> \placetable{}{ >>>>>>> \bTABLE[split=repeat] >>>>>>> \dorecurse{9}{\bTR\bTD ha \eTD\eTR} >>>>>>> \eTABLE} >>>>>>> \stopcolumns >>>>>>> \stoptext >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> ntg-context mailing list >>>>>> ntg-context@ntg.nl >>>>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ntg-context mailing list >> ntg-context@ntg.nl >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: split natural table over columns 2006-09-27 12:00 ` Peter Rolf @ 2006-09-27 12:12 ` Peter Rolf 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2006-09-27 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw) Peter Rolf wrote: > Johan Sandblom wrote: >> Good point, in the actual case there were two columns, a name and a >> number. The reason for using the table is align the name to the left >> and the number to the right. So a more realistic example is something >> like >> >> \starttext >> \bTABLE >> \setupTABLE[c][1][align=right] >> \setupTABLE[c][2][align=left] >> \dorecurse{10}{ >> \bTR\bTD foo\eTD\bTD 123\eTD\eTR >> \bTR\bTD b \eTD\bTD 123456\eTD\eTR} >> \eTABLE >> \stoptext >> > So there is no need to split that table. I would suggest to only > rearrange it a bit for your column layout. Also TABLE is not the best > choise here (I'm no table expert, but I think table is better here). > > %\SetTableToWidth\hsize > \starttable[|l|r|l|r|] \HL > \dorecurse{10}{% > \VL foo \NC 123 \VL[2] b \NC 12345 \VL\AR} \HL > \stoptable > > For more details about table see > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table > > HTH, Peter > I missed the horizontal ones :D ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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