placing a wide float at the bottom

placing a wide float at the bottom

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Ahoi,

while
\placefigure[bottom]{}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
works just fine,
I get "top" placement with
\placefigure[bottom]{}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}

I.e. if the figure exceeds \textwidth, bottom placement fails.
I’m actually trying to place page wide images including bleed.

I’d guess this is a bug. Or can I do anything about it?


Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: placing a wide float at the bottom

[Rik Kabel]

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On 2018-02-10 10:00, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> \placefigure[bottom]{}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
> works just fine,
> I get "top" placement with
> \placefigure[bottom]{}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}

Works here with the code below. The same result with and without adding 
"force". Result attached.

Do you have an MWE?

    \showframe
    \starttext
      some text
    \placefigure[top]{top
    textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
      some text
    \page
      some text
    \placefigure[here]{here
    textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
      some text
    \page
      some text
    \placefigure[bottom]{bottom
    textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
      some text
    \page
      some text
    \placefigure[top,force]{top force
    paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
      some text
    \page
      some text
    \placefigure[here,force]{here force
    paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
      some text
    \page
      some text
    \placefigure[bottom,force]{bottom force
    paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}\stopmode
      some text
    \page
      some text
    \placefigure[top]{top
    paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
      some text
    \page
      some text
    \placefigure[here]{here
    paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
      some text
    \page
      some text
    \placefigure[bottom]{bottom
    paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
      some text
    \stoptext


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Re: placing a wide float at the bottom

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2018-02-10 um 18:03 schrieb Rik Kabel <context@rik.users.panix.com>:

> On 2018-02-10 10:00, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> \placefigure[bottom]{}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
>> works just fine,
>> I get "top" placement with
>> \placefigure[bottom]{}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>> 
> Works here with the code below. The same result with and without adding "force". Result attached.
> 
> Do you have an MWE?
> 
> \showframe
> \starttext
>  some text
> \placefigure[top]{top textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
>  some text
> \page
>  some text
> \placefigure[here]{here textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
>  some text
> \page
>  some text
> \placefigure[bottom]{bottom textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
>  some text
> \page
>  some text
> \placefigure[top,force]{top force paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>  some text
> \page
>  some text
> \placefigure[here,force]{here force paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>  some text
> \page
>  some text
> \placefigure[bottom,force]{bottom force paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}\stopmode
>  some text
> \page
>  some text
> \placefigure[top]{top paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>  some text
> \page
>  some text
> \placefigure[here]{here paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>  some text
> \page
>  some text
> \placefigure[bottom]{bottom paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>  some text
> \stoptext

Hi Rik,
thank you for looking into this.
Even your example shows a problem: The first "bottom" figure is lower than "top", but not at the bottom.

In the following example only the first image is placed at the bottom, the others at top:

\showframe
\starttext
\input tufte
\placefigure[bottom]{bottom textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\input zapf
\input tufte
\placefigure[bottom,force]{bottom force paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}\stopmode
\input knuth
\input zapf
\placefigure[bottom]{bottom paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
\input lorem
\stoptext


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Re: placing a wide float at the bottom

[Rik Kabel]

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On 2018-02-11 06:50, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Am 2018-02-10 um 18:03 schrieb Rik Kabel <context@rik.users.panix.com>:
>
>> On 2018-02-10 10:00, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>>> \placefigure[bottom]{}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
>>> works just fine,
>>> I get "top" placement with
>>> \placefigure[bottom]{}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>>>
>> Works here with the code below. The same result with and without adding "force". Result attached.
>>
>> Do you have an MWE?
>>
>> \showframe
>> \starttext
>>   some text
>> \placefigure[top]{top textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
>>   some text
>> \page
>>   some text
>> \placefigure[here]{here textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
>>   some text
>> \page
>>   some text
>> \placefigure[bottom]{bottom textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
>>   some text
>> \page
>>   some text
>> \placefigure[top,force]{top force paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>>   some text
>> \page
>>   some text
>> \placefigure[here,force]{here force paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>>   some text
>> \page
>>   some text
>> \placefigure[bottom,force]{bottom force paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}\stopmode
>>   some text
>> \page
>>   some text
>> \placefigure[top]{top paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>>   some text
>> \page
>>   some text
>> \placefigure[here]{here paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>>   some text
>> \page
>>   some text
>> \placefigure[bottom]{bottom paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
>>   some text
>> \stoptext
> Hi Rik,
> thank you for looking into this.
> Even your example shows a problem: The first "bottom" figure is lower than "top", but not at the bottom.
>
> In the following example only the first image is placed at the bottom, the others at top:
>
> \showframe
> \starttext
> \input tufte
> \placefigure[bottom]{bottom textwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\textwidth]}
> \input knuth
> \input zapf
> \input tufte
> \placefigure[bottom,force]{bottom force paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}\stopmode
> \input knuth
> \input zapf
> \placefigure[bottom]{bottom paperwidth}{\externalfigure[hacker][width=\paperwidth]}
> \input lorem
> \stoptext
>
>

You are, unfortunately, right about the problem. Alan Braslau brought up 
the same issue a while back ([NTG-context] \startplacefloat 
[location=bottom], 2015-10-16 
<https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg79774.html>) and it 
was not dealt with at that point. Perhaps he devised a work-around for 
his use that he has not shared yet.

(Sorry for the errant \stopmode in the example. It did nothing, but does 
not belong there in any case.)

-- 
Rik

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