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From: Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Quotation with footnote
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 16:04:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <99079A05-6978-4947-8EB7-3396887FE340@elvenkind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D0C34F7D-CDC3-4FCB-8B07-5B8560DA0E95@fiee.net>


Something like this?


\definenarrower[myquote]
\setupnarrower[myquote]
  [left=2em,
   right=1.5em,
   before=\dontleavehmode\hskip-0.33em\startquote,
   after=\stopquote]

\startmyquote
Im übrigen ist der Mensch ein Lebewesen, das klopft, schlechte Musik macht und seinen Hund bellen läßt. Manchmal gibt er auch Ruhe, aber dann ist er tot.
\stopmyquote \footnote[f:9]{Kaspar Hauser (Kurt Tucholsky), Weltbühne 24, 16.\,6.\,1931}


But there may be smarter solutions.

Best wishes,
Taco

> On 4 Sep 2020, at 13:25, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> 
> My current book contains a lot of quotations with their sources marked as footnotes, e.g.
> 
> 
> \definedelimitedtext[Zitat][
>  %setups=Zitat, % doesn’t work!?
>  left=»,
>  right=«,
>  leftmargin=2em,
>  rightmargin=1.5em,
> ]
> 
> \startZitat
> A rose is a rose is a rose.\footnote{Marx brothers}
> \stopZitat
> 
> 
> Now, since the quotations are whole sentences or paragraphs, the footnote marker needs to be placed _after_ the closing quotation mark. (German typography, I learned it’s different at least in US English.)
> 
> I tried several approaches e.g. with my own single start/stop macros that call \start/stopnarrower or \start/stopZitat – that always lead to unclosed environments.
> 
> * Only the delimitedtext approach gives a hanging opening quotation mark (which looks nice and I’d like to have).
> 
> * \stopnarrower within a macro doesn’t seem to work (all following text stays narrower).
> 
> * I can’t get rid of that space introduced by the CR before \stop – didn’t find a place where \gobblespacetokens works, maybe that’s the wrong command.
> 
> 
> Most preferred would be a solution that checked if there’s a footnote in front of \stopZitat and would put the closing quotation mark in front instead of after. Without a footnote it would just place the mark.
> 
> Something like \stopZitat\footnote{...} would also be nice, but I guess that’s too far outside of TeX’s logic.
> 
> In the worst case I’d need to typeset the closing mark manually.
> 
> Some hints please?
> 
> Hraban
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-04 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-04 11:25 Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-09-04 13:34 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-09-04 14:20   ` Wolfgang Schuster
2020-09-04 15:03     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-09-04 14:04 ` Taco Hoekwater [this message]
2020-09-04 15:01   ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-09-16  9:50   ` Henning Hraban Ramm

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