* disturbing the hyphenation mechanism
@ 2008-08-26 20:29 Steffen Wolfrum
2008-08-27 6:46 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2008-08-26 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
please have a look at the following – the "wondering" doesn't brake
anymore thanks to the "kern":
\starttext
\showframe
\enableregime[utf]
blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablabla „{\kern-0.025em}wondering
\stoptext
I have read an e-mail by Hans from 2003 when he said "well, it's just
like that".
But time has passed.
Is there a solution today in MkIV or even in MkII ?
Thank you,
Steffen
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* Re: disturbing the hyphenation mechanism
2008-08-26 20:29 disturbing the hyphenation mechanism Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2008-08-27 6:46 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-08-27 10:39 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-08-27 6:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steffen Wolfrum; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Steffen Wolfrum
<context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> please have a look at the following – the "wondering" doesn't brake anymore
> thanks to the "kern":
>
>
> \starttext
> \showframe
>
> \enableregime[utf]
>
> blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla blablabla
> „{\kern-0.025em}wondering
>
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> I have read an e-mail by Hans from 2003 when he said "well, it's just like
> that".
> But time has passed.
>
> Is there a solution today in MkIV or even in MkII ?
You could give TeX hints where to break the line.
\starttext
\showframe
\enableregime[utf]
blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablabla „\kern-0.025em won\-de\-ring
blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablabla \penalty-500„\hskip-0.025em wondering
blablabla blablabla bla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablabla \penalty-500„\hskip-0.025em wondering
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: disturbing the hyphenation mechanism
2008-08-27 6:46 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2008-08-27 10:39 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2008-08-27 11:25 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2008-08-27 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Just .. in case of bad luck you'll get this:
\starttext
\showframe
\enableregime[utf]
blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablabla \penalty-500„\hskip-0.025em wondering
\stoptext
... the line breaks after the quote mark ;o(
No way to avoid this and yet keep the hyphenation?
Steffen
Am 27.08.2008 um 08:46 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Steffen Wolfrum
> <context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> please have a look at the following – the "wondering" doesn't brake
>> anymore
>> thanks to the "kern":
>>
>>
>> \starttext
>> \showframe
>>
>> \enableregime[utf]
>>
>> blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
>> blablabla
>> „{\kern-0.025em}wondering
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>>
>> I have read an e-mail by Hans from 2003 when he said "well, it's
>> just like
>> that".
>> But time has passed.
>>
>> Is there a solution today in MkIV or even in MkII ?
>
> You could give TeX hints where to break the line.
>
> \starttext
> \showframe
>
> \enableregime[utf]
>
> blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
> blablabla „\kern-0.025em won\-de\-ring
>
> blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
> blablabla \penalty-500„\hskip-0.025em wondering
>
> blablabla blablabla bla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
> blablabla \penalty-500„\hskip-0.025em wondering
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
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* Re: disturbing the hyphenation mechanism
2008-08-27 10:39 ` Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2008-08-27 11:25 ` Hans Hagen
2008-08-27 11:55 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2008-08-27 12:55 ` Taco Hoekwater
[not found] ` <115224fb0808270418w638e6399j9c323ad8da2aa153@mail.gmail.com>
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-08-27 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> Just .. in case of bad luck you'll get this:
>
>
> \starttext
> \showframe
>
> \enableregime[utf]
>
> blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
> blablabla \penalty-500„\hskip-0.025em wondering
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> .... the line breaks after the quote mark ;o(
>
> No way to avoid this and yet keep the hyphenation?
blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablabla \allowbreak„\kern-0.025em wondering
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* Re: disturbing the hyphenation mechanism
2008-08-27 11:25 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-08-27 11:55 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2008-08-27 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Hans Hagen
Am 27.08.2008 um 13:25 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> Just .. in case of bad luck you'll get this:
>>
>>
>> \starttext
>> \showframe
>>
>> \enableregime[utf]
>>
>> blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
>> blablabla \penalty-500„\hskip-0.025em wondering
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> .... the line breaks after the quote mark ;o(
>>
>> No way to avoid this and yet keep the hyphenation?
>
> blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
> blablabla \allowbreak„\kern-0.025em wondering
There is no hyphenation! See:
\starttext
\showframe
\enableregime[utf]
blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablabla \allowbreak„\kern-0.025em wondering
blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablabl \allowbreak„\kern-0.025em wondering
blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablab \allowbreak„\kern-0.025em wondering
blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blabla \allowbreak„\kern-0.025em wondering
blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blabl \allowbreak„\kern-0.025em wondering
\stoptext
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* Re: disturbing the hyphenation mechanism
2008-08-27 10:39 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2008-08-27 11:25 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-08-27 12:55 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2008-08-27 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> Just .. in case of bad luck you'll get this:
>
>
> \starttext
> \showframe
>
> \enableregime[utf]
>
> blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
> blablabla \penalty-500„\hskip-0.025em wondering
\penalty-500„\penalty10000\hskip-0.025em wondering
Taco
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* Fwd: disturbing the hyphenation mechanism
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@ 2008-08-27 13:12 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-08-27 15:35 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-08-27 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] disturbing the hyphenation mechanism
To: Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Steffen Wolfrum
<context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
> Just .. in case of bad luck you'll get this:
>
>
> \starttext
> \showframe
>
> \enableregime[utf]
>
> blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
> blablabla \penalty-500„\hskip-0.025em wondering
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> ... the line breaks after the quote mark ;o(
>
> No way to avoid this and yet keep the hyphenation?
\starttext
\showframe
\enableregime[utf]
blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablabla „\penalty\plustenthousand\hskip-0.025em wondering
blablabla l blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
blablabla „\penalty\plustenthousand\hskip-0.025em wondering
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: Fwd: disturbing the hyphenation mechanism
2008-08-27 13:12 ` Fwd: " Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2008-08-27 15:35 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2008-08-27 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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yep, thanks friends!
Am 27.08.2008 um 15:12 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>
> Date: Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] disturbing the hyphenation mechanism
> To: Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Steffen Wolfrum
> <context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
>> Just .. in case of bad luck you'll get this:
>>
>>
>> \starttext
>> \showframe
>>
>> \enableregime[utf]
>>
>> blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
>> blablabla \penalty-500„\hskip-0.025em wondering
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> ... the line breaks after the quote mark ;o(
>>
>> No way to avoid this and yet keep the hyphenation?
>
> \starttext
> \showframe
>
> \enableregime[utf]
>
> blablabla blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blabla
> blablabla „\penalty\plustenthousand\hskip-0.025em wondering
>
> blablabla l blablablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla blablabla
> blabla
> blablabla „\penalty\plustenthousand\hskip-0.025em wondering
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
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