* [NTG-context] Re: How to tell a single *.tex file to produce separate PDFs?
2024-09-20 2:57 ` [NTG-context] How to tell a single *.tex file to produce separate PDFs? Joel via ntg-context
@ 2024-09-20 8:23 ` vm via ntg-context
2024-09-20 8:33 ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
2024-09-20 10:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: vm via ntg-context @ 2024-09-20 8:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context; +Cc: vm
On 20/09/2024 04:57, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
>
> Anyway, my boss is upset she has to use a table of contents to navigate
> to the page she wants, and so wants me to split the file into 180
> separate files, which somehow is going to be easier to look at.
> Honestly, she probably still won't ever actually look at it, but that's
> her requirement.
what is the difference between scrolling through your single page files
folder and scrolling through a single pdf?
How about <ctrl-f> too search in the pdf?
with mutools you can take a pdf aprt into individual pages.
$ mutool --help
usage: mutool <command> [options]
clean -- rewrite pdf file
convert -- convert document
create -- create pdf document
draw -- convert document
trace -- trace device calls
extract -- extract font and image resources
info -- show information about pdf resources
merge -- merge pages from multiple pdf sources into a new pdf
pages -- show information about pdf pages
poster -- split large page into many tiles
sign -- manipulate PDF digital signatures
run -- run javascript
show -- show internal pdf objects
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From: Denis Maier via ntg-context @ 2024-09-20 8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users'; +Cc: denismaier
I was going to suggest pdftk which is similar to mutools. You can get
boundaries from a the log file and then split the file using these tools.
(Search the mailing list: I think that's also something ConTeXt might be
able to do natively, but I'm not sure.)
Then, you might also consider using a product-component based solution.
You'll then be able to process each file indivdually while still having a
main file around. The page numbers in the individual file will be incorrect,
i.e. always start at 1, but for having a quick look that still might be
nice. (Hans or Wolfgang probably know if there is a way to get correct page
numbers when using components...)
Best,
Denis
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> Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: How to tell a single *.tex file to produce
separate
> PDFs?
>
>
>
> On 20/09/2024 04:57, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
> >
> > Anyway, my boss is upset she has to use a table of contents to
> > navigate to the page she wants, and so wants me to split the file into
> > 180 separate files, which somehow is going to be easier to look at.
> > Honestly, she probably still won't ever actually look at it, but
> > that's her requirement.
>
>
> what is the difference between scrolling through your single page files
folder
> and scrolling through a single pdf?
>
> How about <ctrl-f> too search in the pdf?
>
>
> with mutools you can take a pdf aprt into individual pages.
>
>
> $ mutool --help
> usage: mutool <command> [options]
> clean -- rewrite pdf file
> convert -- convert document
> create -- create pdf document
> draw -- convert document
> trace -- trace device calls
> extract -- extract font and image resources
> info -- show information about pdf resources
> merge -- merge pages from multiple pdf sources into a new pdf
> pages -- show information about pdf pages
> poster -- split large page into many tiles
> sign -- manipulate PDF digital signatures
> run -- run javascript
> show -- show internal pdf objects
>
>
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* [NTG-context] Re: How to tell a single *.tex file to produce separate PDFs?
2024-09-20 8:33 ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
@ 2024-09-20 9:58 ` vm via ntg-context
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From: vm via ntg-context @ 2024-09-20 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 20/09/2024 10:33, denismaier@mailbox.org wrote:
indeed:> I was going to suggest pdftk which is similar to mutools.
indeed:
pdftk document.pdf burst
will generate pg_nnnn.pdf individual pdf
pg_0001,pdf
pg_0002,pdf
pg_0003,pdf
pg_0004,pdf
...
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* [NTG-context] Re: How to tell a single *.tex file to produce separate PDFs?
2024-09-20 8:33 ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
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From: Alan Braslau via ntg-context @ 2024-09-21 0:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Denis Maier via ntg-context; +Cc: Alan Braslau
On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 10:33:55 +0200
Denis Maier via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> I was going to suggest pdftk which is similar to mutools.
There is also qpdf.
However, running a shell script to run context many times is my
favorite solution.
This question brings up the topic: would it be useful to be able to do
the same within context, either using lua or TeX programming?
Alan
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* [NTG-context] Re: How to tell a single *.tex file to produce separate PDFs?
2024-09-20 2:57 ` [NTG-context] How to tell a single *.tex file to produce separate PDFs? Joel via ntg-context
2024-09-20 8:23 ` [NTG-context] " vm via ntg-context
@ 2024-09-20 10:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2024-09-20 13:05 ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2024-09-20 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Joel via ntg-context
Joel via ntg-context schrieb am 20.09.2024 um 04:57:
> I have a document that's quite long. It uses a recurse function, a bit
> like this:
>
> \starttext
>
> \dostepwiserecurse{1}{180}{1}{%
>
> \input chapter\recurselevel
>
> }
>
> \stoptext
>
> That produces 180 chapters of content.
>
> Anyway, my boss is upset she has to use a table of contents to navigate
> to the page she wants, and so wants me to split the file into 180
> separate files, which somehow is going to be easier to look at.
> Honestly, she probably still won't ever actually look at it, but that's
> her requirement.
>
> The problem is, I've been splitting the file by using Print --> PDF and
> choosing a custom print range, and then saving it. If I ned to repeat
> that 180 times, it not only will have errors, but probably take 5-10 hours.
>
> Is there something I can put, like \breakpdf or something that will tell
> it to start a new PDF file? They can be named something like file1.pdf,
> file2.pdf, etc.
>
> \starttext
>
> \dostepwiserecurse{1}{136}{1}{%
>
> \input chapter\recurselevel
>
> \breakpdf
>
> }
>
> \stoptext
>
> The perhaps "obvious" answer is just make 180 *.tex files, but since
> the minimal example above is like 0.01% of the complexity of the real
> file, that isn't so easy...
You can use the pdf script file but it's slower than mutool or pdftk.
mtxrun --script pdf --split file.pdf
Wolfgang
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2024-09-20 2:57 ` [NTG-context] How to tell a single *.tex file to produce separate PDFs? Joel via ntg-context
2024-09-20 8:23 ` [NTG-context] " vm via ntg-context
2024-09-20 10:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2024-09-20 13:46 ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
2024-09-20 16:41 ` Jim
2024-09-20 17:04 ` Bruce Horrocks
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From: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context @ 2024-09-20 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joel via ntg-context; +Cc: Pablo Rodriguez
On 9/20/24 04:57, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
> [...]
> The perhaps "obvious" answer is just make 180 *.tex files, but since
> the minimal example above is like 0.01% of the complexity of the real
> file, that isn't so easy...
Hi Joel,
I tried to recreate a document with chapters that contain a different
number of pages each:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setuphead[chapter][reference=ch\the\numexpr\namedheadnumber{chapter}+1]
\starttext
\dorecurse{180}{%
\startchapter[title={Chapter \namedheadnumber{chapter}}]
\dorecurse{\randomnumber{10}{50}}
{\input zapf\par}
\stopchapter}
\stoptext
The key above is setting a reference for each chapter, so that they may
be retrieved later automatically.
Then you should have the pages for any chapter from its reference with
the following command:
context --pages=ch100 main-file.tex
But I must confess, I cannot get this working. I don’t know what I miss.
If you are on Unix, generating a bash loop would be similar to (once
your main PDF document has been generated):
for i in {1..180}; do mutool merge -o chapter-$i.pdf main-file\
"$(context --pages=ch$i main-file)"
But for that, you need to know first how "--pages=[reference]" may work.
Just in case it might help,
Pablo
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From: Jim @ 2024-09-20 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 02:57 (+0000), Joel via ntg-context wrote:
> I have a document that's quite long. It uses a recurse function, a bit like this:
> \starttext
> \dostepwiserecurse{1}{180}{1}{%
> \input chapter\recurselevel
> }
> \stoptext
> That produces 180 chapters of content.
> Anyway, my boss is upset she has to use a table of contents to navigate to the page she wants, and so wants me to split the file into 180 separate files, which somehow is going to be easier to look at. Honestly, she probably still won't ever actually look at it, but that's her requirement.
> The problem is, I've been splitting the file by using Print --> PDF and choosing a custom print range, and then saving it. If I ned to repeat that 180 times, it not only will have errors, but probably take 5-10 hours.
> Is there something I can put, like \breakpdf or something that will tell it to start a new PDF file? They can be named something like file1.pdf, file2.pdf, etc.
> \starttext
> \dostepwiserecurse{1}{136}{1}{%
> \input chapter\recurselevel
> \breakpdf
> }
> \stoptext
> The perhaps "obvious" answer is just make 180 *.tex files, but since the minimal example above is like 0.01% of the complexity of the real file, that isn't so easy...
Joel,
others have suggested mutool and pdftk, which could be half the solution
for you. (I use pdftk for things like this, but I assume mutool is just as
good. Either are far less tedious than printing to file.)
If the information of the chapter boundaries is available in the log file,
a judicious use of grep and a few lines of shell script code might do the
trick. Alternatively, you might be able to use a tool like pdfgrep to find
the page numbers from the PDF file, and then use a few lines of shell code.
If you are a Linux or Mac user, this should be "easy enough". I don't do
windows, but now that there is (as I understand it) a bash shell available,
you might also be able to use grep and/or pdfgrep there as well.
If the log file isn't currently sufficiently helpful, could you add
something to your "start a new chapter" command to write a comment into the
log file giving you exactly the information you need?
Jim
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From: Bruce Horrocks @ 2024-09-20 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context mailing list
> On 20 Sep 2024, at 03:57, Joel via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>
> I have a document that's quite long. It uses a recurse function, a bit like this:
>
> \starttext
>
> \dostepwiserecurse{1}{180}{1}{%
>
> \input chapter\recurselevel
>
> }
>
> \stoptext
>
> That produces 180 chapters of content.
>
> Anyway, my boss is upset she has to use a table of contents to navigate to the page she wants, and so wants me to split the file into 180 separate files, which somehow is going to be easier to look at. Honestly, she probably still won't ever actually look at it, but that's her requirement.
Since you’ve already got the chapter content split into separate \input files ...
At the Unix level, use the following script to run Context 180 times specifying a different output file each time:
#! /bin/bash
for i in {1..180}
do
context \
--arguments="ChapNo=$i" test.tex \
--result="chapter_$i.pdf”
done
And at the Context level, test.tex is simply:
\starttext
\input chapter\env{ChapNo}
\stoptext
Regards,
—
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Hampshire, UK
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From: Joel via ntg-context @ 2024-09-21 0:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context mailing list, Bruce Horrocks; +Cc: Joel
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I am using Linux, so those tools are available, but Bruce's solution is working great! Just had to make tiny changes to the file.
I had no idea I could send an environment variable to ConTeXt...will be using that a lot from now! Thanks very much everyone for the help!
On Friday, September 20, 2024 at 11:04:47 AM MDT, Bruce Horrocks <ntg@scorecrow.com> wrote:
> On 20 Sep 2024, at 03:57, Joel via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>
> I have a document that's quite long. It uses a recurse function, a bit like this:
>
> \starttext
>
> \dostepwiserecurse{1}{180}{1}{%
>
> \input chapter\recurselevel
>
> }
>
> \stoptext
>
> That produces 180 chapters of content.
>
> Anyway, my boss is upset she has to use a table of contents to navigate to the page she wants, and so wants me to split the file into 180 separate files, which somehow is going to be easier to look at. Honestly, she probably still won't ever actually look at it, but that's her requirement.
Since you’ve already got the chapter content split into separate \input files ...
At the Unix level, use the following script to run Context 180 times specifying a different output file each time:
#! /bin/bash
for i in {1..180}
do
context \
--arguments="ChapNo=$i" test.tex \
--result="chapter_$i.pdf”
done
And at the Context level, test.tex is simply:
\starttext
\input chapter\env{ChapNo}
\stoptext
Regards,
—
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, UK
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From: Otared Kavian @ 2024-09-23 9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Bruce,
I had an analogous problem a while ago, but with 7 chapter files, which I treated manually…
Your solution is a very nice one, thank you for sharing !
For the archives, if one wishes to have the correct chapter number in each separate PDF file, one could change the content of « test.tex » file as follows:
\starttext
\setupheadnumber[chapter][\cldcontext{\env{ChapNo}-1}]
\input chapter-\env{ChapNo}.tex
\stoptext
Best regards: Otared
> On 20 Sep 2024, at 19:04, Bruce Horrocks <ntg@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 20 Sep 2024, at 03:57, Joel via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>
>> I have a document that's quite long. It uses a recurse function, a bit like this:
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \dostepwiserecurse{1}{180}{1}{%
>>
>> \input chapter\recurselevel
>>
>> }
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> That produces 180 chapters of content.
>>
>> Anyway, my boss is upset she has to use a table of contents to navigate to the page she wants, and so wants me to split the file into 180 separate files, which somehow is going to be easier to look at. Honestly, she probably still won't ever actually look at it, but that's her requirement.
>
> Since you’ve already got the chapter content split into separate \input files ...
>
> At the Unix level, use the following script to run Context 180 times specifying a different output file each time:
>
> #! /bin/bash
> for i in {1..180}
> do
> context \
> --arguments="ChapNo=$i" test.tex \
> --result="chapter_$i.pdf”
> done
>
> And at the Context level, test.tex is simply:
>
> \starttext
> \input chapter\env{ChapNo}
> \stoptext
>
>
> Regards,
> —
> Bruce Horrocks
> Hampshire, UK
>
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