Re: Finding documentation for ConTeXt

["Keith J. Schultz" <keithjschultz@web.de>]

Hi Mari,

I thank you for you post. 
Basically, what I want to do is not in ConTeXt. So will have to develop
it myself.

One such need I have is the use of Nassi-Schneidermann Diagrams.
I also, what to develop something along the line of literate programming.
For that I will create Data structures on the Lua side and then
visualize with ConTeXt in the form of UML, flowcharts, program specifications
and documentation and the output of the actual programming code.

Also, there are the things that ConTeXt and Lua(La)TeX do not offer or
are not the way I like it.

From your Link to the co-font.links.pdf  I was able to look at the 
directory it was in. Interesting, is that its coresponding tex file is a half an 
year younger!

What I do not understand why these documents are not in the standalone
distribution. Sure I can search the web, but that has been cumbersome and
very time consuming.

The last point you mentioned that for the deep down things there is this
list. You are right. But, comprehensive manuals are for me. And I want them
on my computer. Furthermore I need to understand the ConTeXt (mkiv) 
programming language so I understand the *mkiv files. Programming is not
new to me. 

regards
	Keith.
  

Am 28.01.2013 um 18:38 schrieb Mari Voipio <mari.voipio@iki.fi>:

> I think that one of the problems is that ConTeXt can do almost
> anything, if you know how to ask it to do that. What I do is different
> what most people use it for, but it works
> (http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-pagedesign.pdf
> and http://www.lucet.fi/2013/01/metaposting/ and
> http://www.lucet.fi/2012/12/twpatterns/).
> 
> There used to be a project to create a test suite with various types
> of files, but the links on the wiki refer to something from 2009 and
> that is, as you say, probably a be obsolete. I remember somebody
> talking about the test suite at one of the more recent ConTeXt
> meetings (2011/2012) - anyone with more info on that project? I think
> it'd help Keith (and many others, me included) to see what can be
> done.
> 
> 
> If you do not want to splurge in the books, the revised chapters on
> typography, fonts and pagedesign are recommended reading and pretty
> well up-to-date. They are linked to the main page of the garden, but
> these take you directly to the pdfs:
> 
> http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-typography.pdf
> http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-fonts.pdf
> http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-pagedesign.pdf
> 
> 
> Other than that, it'd be helpful to know what you are looking for: are
> interested in typography, doing layouts for you and others? Is
> automated workflow what you are looking for? Dealing with maths? XML?
> What about dealing with colour? Interactivity?
> 
> 
> I guess I've resigned to the fact that ConTeXt is so huge that I'll
> never know more than a fraction of it - so I operate on a need-to-know
> basis. I learn something either because I'm certain it can be done or
> because I've seen it at a ConTeXt meeting or heard about it (a remark
> by Hans is to be blamed for my recent MetaPosting excursions).
> 
> 
> A slightly off-topic thought: there are hundreds of manuals on
> Microsoft Word. However, once you start going deeper into the program,
> it is not *that* easy to find a single good manual on the subject.
> With ConTeXt it is the other way round, finding 'for Dummies'
> information is hard, but once you want to dive deep, the developers
> are on this list to answer questions.
> 
> 
> 
> Just my five cents on the subject,
> 
> Mari
> (who still remembers what things were like before the wiki. this is
> much better.)
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