From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/32353 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Douglas Philips Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Manual (English) Update soon? Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:14:52 -0500 Message-ID: <9D262742-4464-4342-8EA8-EA01AAC9A344@mac.com> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167410866 24890 80.91.229.10 (29 Dec 2006 16:47:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Dec 29 17:47:44 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H0KtR-0002AH-G3 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:47:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C8D1FE62; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:13:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23845-01-5; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:13:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9281FE00; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:13:02 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6144C1FDFD for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:13:01 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23845-01-4 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:12:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.182]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B4101FDED for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:12:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout12/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBTGEwk4001264 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 08:14:59 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.102] (15.pins2.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.172.144]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBTGEopq008084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 08:14:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11, 1.2.37, 4.0.164 definitions=2006-12-29_05:2006-12-29, 2006-12-29, 2006-12-29 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0612050001 definitions=main-0612290018 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:32353 Archived-At: On 2006 Dec 28, at 5:00 PM, Aditya Mahajan indited: > On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Douglas Philips wrote: >> cont-eni.pdf (ConTeXt the manual by Hans Hagen, November 12th, 2001). > > That is the most up to date manual and should get you started for most > of the basic features. The features that are not in the manual are > mostly related to specific needs, so you can get around even if you do > not know about them. Some My Ways discuss some of these undocumented > features. The undocumented features are documented in My Ways? :-) I found a few of those also, and it is very confusing to a newbie (such as myself) to figure out what is old and valid and what is old and not-so-valid... > Just give it a shot. The is "Latex in proper context" by Berend de > Boer which can help in the transition. The general information on > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/From_LaTeX_to_ConTeXt is also useful. Cool, thanks! > Context is very stable, and much better documented than latex. You can > start with small documents in context to get comfortable with it. The > best documents to start are those where you do not have a strict > formatting requirement, so that you do not need to worry if you can > not get something working. :-) That would be ideal. However, I'm looking to change horses because the documents I am already producing (newsletters for local groups (all volunteer)) are straining at what LaTeX wants me to do. So, I've been contemplating whether I should move "up" the abstraction ladder to ConTeXt or "down" to plain TeX and really learn to build the world from boxes and glue. :-) I'd rather move up. :-) :-) >> (IIRC, Hans is also a core team member of LuaTeX, so perhaps I should >> just suck it up with LaTeX until LuaTeX is viable?) > > LuaTeX is not a replacement for LaTeX. It is a replacement for pdfTeX. > ... > pending feature requests getting implemented. So, if you are planning > on switching to context, there is no real need to wait for luatex. OK. Wasn't sure... > HTH, > Aditya Yes, it did/does, thank you! --Doug