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* Is startalign broken in mkiv?
@ 2012-07-17 22:22 Matthias Weber
  2012-07-17 23:17 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Matthias Weber @ 2012-07-17 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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\starttext
\startformula \startalign
 v &= u + at \\
 h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
\stopalign \stopformula
\stoptext


---->>

ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.17 16:42 MKIV  fmt: 2012.7.17  int: english/english
(...)
! Missing $ inserted.

system          > tex > error on line 3 in file test.tex: Missing $ inserted ...

1     \starttext
2     \startformula \startalign
3 >>  v &= u + at \\
4     h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
5     \stopalign \stopformula
6     \stoptext

Thanks - 

Matthias


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* Re: Is startalign broken in mkiv?
  2012-07-17 22:22 Is startalign broken in mkiv? Matthias Weber
@ 2012-07-17 23:17 ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-17 23:32   ` Matthias Weber
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-07-17 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 18-7-2012 00:22, Matthias Weber wrote:
> \starttext
> \startformula \startalign
>   v &= u + at \\
>   h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
> \stopalign \stopformula
> \stoptext
>
>
> ---->>
>
> ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.17 16:42 MKIV  fmt: 2012.7.17  int: english/english
> (...)
> ! Missing $ inserted.
>
> system          > tex > error on line 3 in file test.tex: Missing $ inserted ...
>
> 1     \starttext
> 2     \startformula \startalign
> 3 >>  v &= u + at \\
> 4     h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
> 5     \stopalign \stopformula
> 6     \stoptext
>
> Thanks -

the context way is:

\startformula \startalign
  \NC v \NC = u + at \NR
  \NC h \NC = ut + \frac12 gt^2 \NR
\stopalign \stopformula


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* Re: Is startalign broken in mkiv?
  2012-07-17 23:17 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-07-17 23:32   ` Matthias Weber
  2012-07-17 23:41     ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Matthias Weber @ 2012-07-17 23:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

Thanks - I wasn't aware that the human readable version had been deprecated :(

Matthias

On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 18-7-2012 00:22, Matthias Weber wrote:
>> \starttext
>> \startformula \startalign
>>  v &= u + at \\
>>  h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
>> \stopalign \stopformula
>> \stoptext
>> 
>> 
>> ---->>
>> 
>> ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.17 16:42 MKIV  fmt: 2012.7.17  int: english/english
>> (...)
>> ! Missing $ inserted.
>> 
>> system          > tex > error on line 3 in file test.tex: Missing $ inserted ...
>> 
>> 1     \starttext
>> 2     \startformula \startalign
>> 3 >>  v &= u + at \\
>> 4     h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
>> 5     \stopalign \stopformula
>> 6     \stoptext
>> 
>> Thanks -
> 
> the context way is:
> 
> \startformula \startalign
> \NC v \NC = u + at \NR
> \NC h \NC = ut + \frac12 gt^2 \NR
> \stopalign \stopformula
> 
> 
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>              Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
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* Re: Is startalign broken in mkiv?
  2012-07-17 23:32   ` Matthias Weber
@ 2012-07-17 23:41     ` Khaled Hosny
  2012-07-18  1:48       ` Matthias Weber
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Khaled Hosny @ 2012-07-17 23:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Hans Hagen

The use of & (which is a common symbol) as a control character is a long
standing idiosyncrasy of TeX that I'm glad ConTeXt has got rid of.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:32:09PM -0400, Matthias Weber wrote:
> Thanks - I wasn't aware that the human readable version had been deprecated :(
> 
> Matthias
> 
> On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
> > On 18-7-2012 00:22, Matthias Weber wrote:
> >> \starttext
> >> \startformula \startalign
> >>  v &= u + at \\
> >>  h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
> >> \stopalign \stopformula
> >> \stoptext
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ---->>
> >> 
> >> ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.17 16:42 MKIV  fmt: 2012.7.17  int: english/english
> >> (...)
> >> ! Missing $ inserted.
> >> 
> >> system          > tex > error on line 3 in file test.tex: Missing $ inserted ...
> >> 
> >> 1     \starttext
> >> 2     \startformula \startalign
> >> 3 >>  v &= u + at \\
> >> 4     h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
> >> 5     \stopalign \stopformula
> >> 6     \stoptext
> >> 
> >> Thanks -
> > 
> > the context way is:
> > 
> > \startformula \startalign
> > \NC v \NC = u + at \NR
> > \NC h \NC = ut + \frac12 gt^2 \NR
> > \stopalign \stopformula
> > 
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
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> >              Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
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> > 
> > 
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* Re: Is startalign broken in mkiv?
  2012-07-17 23:41     ` Khaled Hosny
@ 2012-07-18  1:48       ` Matthias Weber
  2012-07-18  3:13         ` Rogers, Michael K
  2012-07-18 10:38         ` Khaled Hosny
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Weber @ 2012-07-18  1:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

It was never a problem in TeX to modify the control characters used according to your own pleasure. For me, the problem is now to change the 200+ occurrences of start/stopaligns distributed over dozens of files to the politically correct syntax. 

Matthias

On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny@eglug.org> wrote:

> The use of & (which is a common symbol) as a control character is a long
> standing idiosyncrasy of TeX that I'm glad ConTeXt has got rid of.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:32:09PM -0400, Matthias Weber wrote:
>> Thanks - I wasn't aware that the human readable version had been deprecated :(
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 18-7-2012 00:22, Matthias Weber wrote:
>>>> \starttext
>>>> \startformula \startalign
>>>> v &= u + at \\
>>>> h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
>>>> \stopalign \stopformula
>>>> \stoptext
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---->>
>>>> 
>>>> ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.17 16:42 MKIV  fmt: 2012.7.17  int: english/english
>>>> (...)
>>>> ! Missing $ inserted.
>>>> 
>>>> system          > tex > error on line 3 in file test.tex: Missing $ inserted ...
>>>> 
>>>> 1     \starttext
>>>> 2     \startformula \startalign
>>>> 3 >>  v &= u + at \\
>>>> 4     h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
>>>> 5     \stopalign \stopformula
>>>> 6     \stoptext
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks -
>>> 
>>> the context way is:
>>> 
>>> \startformula \startalign
>>> \NC v \NC = u + at \NR
>>> \NC h \NC = ut + \frac12 gt^2 \NR
>>> \stopalign \stopformula
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>             Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
>>>   tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
>>>                                            | www.pragma-pod.nl
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
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* Re: Is startalign broken in mkiv?
  2012-07-18  1:48       ` Matthias Weber
@ 2012-07-18  3:13         ` Rogers, Michael K
  2012-07-19  1:37           ` Matthias Weber
  2012-07-18 10:38         ` Khaled Hosny
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Rogers, Michael K @ 2012-07-18  3:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

Here's a backward-compatibility hack that works on your minimal example.  Maybe it will save the dozens of files without changing all the &s:

\let\oldstartalign=\startalign
\let\oldstopalign=\stopalign
\let\oldbs=\\
\def\startalign{\catcode`&=4\let\\=\cr\oldstartalign}
\def\stopalign{\oldstopalign\catcode`&=12\let\\=\oldbs}
\starttext
This \& that & the other thing:
\startformula \startalign
v &= u + at \\
h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
\stopalign \stopformula
That \& this & yet another thing.
\stoptext

Hope that helps.

Michael

On Jul 17, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Matthias Weber wrote:

> It was never a problem in TeX to modify the control characters used according to your own pleasure. For me, the problem is now to change the 200+ occurrences of start/stopaligns distributed over dozens of files to the politically correct syntax.
>
> Matthias
>
> On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny@eglug.org> wrote:
>
>> The use of & (which is a common symbol) as a control character is a long
>> standing idiosyncrasy of TeX that I'm glad ConTeXt has got rid of.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:32:09PM -0400, Matthias Weber wrote:
>>> Thanks - I wasn't aware that the human readable version had been deprecated :(
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18-7-2012 00:22, Matthias Weber wrote:
>>>>> \starttext
>>>>> \startformula \startalign
>>>>> v &= u + at \\
>>>>> h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
>>>>> \stopalign \stopformula
>>>>> \stoptext
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---->>
>>>>>
>>>>> ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.17 16:42 MKIV  fmt: 2012.7.17  int: english/english
>>>>> (...)
>>>>> ! Missing $ inserted.
>>>>>
>>>>> system          > tex > error on line 3 in file test.tex: Missing $ inserted ...
>>>>>
>>>>> 1     \starttext
>>>>> 2     \startformula \startalign
>>>>> 3 >>  v &= u + at \\
>>>>> 4     h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
>>>>> 5     \stopalign \stopformula
>>>>> 6     \stoptext
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks -
>>>>
>>>> the context way is:
>>>>
>>>> \startformula \startalign
>>>> \NC v \NC = u + at \NR
>>>> \NC h \NC = ut + \frac12 gt^2 \NR
>>>> \stopalign \stopformula
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>                                        Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
>>>>            Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
>>>>  tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
>>>>                                           | www.pragma-pod.nl
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------


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* Re: Is startalign broken in mkiv?
  2012-07-18  1:48       ` Matthias Weber
  2012-07-18  3:13         ` Rogers, Michael K
@ 2012-07-18 10:38         ` Khaled Hosny
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Khaled Hosny @ 2012-07-18 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 09:48:31PM -0400, Matthias Weber wrote:
> It was never a problem in TeX to modify the control characters used
> according to your own pleasure.

Except that is not the kind of thing ConTeXt users are supposed to mess
with, I feel guilty every time I mess with catcodes in my style file.

Regards,
 Khaled
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* Re: Is startalign broken in mkiv?
  2012-07-18  3:13         ` Rogers, Michael K
@ 2012-07-19  1:37           ` Matthias Weber
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Weber @ 2012-07-19  1:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thanks. Now I have my own little sacrilege in the environment file.

Matthias

On Jul 17, 2012, at 11:13 PM, "Rogers, Michael K" <mroge02@emory.edu> wrote:

> Here's a backward-compatibility hack that works on your minimal example.  Maybe it will save the dozens of files without changing all the &s:
> 
> \let\oldstartalign=\startalign
> \let\oldstopalign=\stopalign
> \let\oldbs=\\
> \def\startalign{\catcode`&=4\let\\=\cr\oldstartalign}
> \def\stopalign{\oldstopalign\catcode`&=12\let\\=\oldbs}
> \starttext
> This \& that & the other thing:
> \startformula \startalign
> v &= u + at \\
> h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
> \stopalign \stopformula
> That \& this & yet another thing.
> \stoptext
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Michael
> 
> On Jul 17, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Matthias Weber wrote:
> 
>> It was never a problem in TeX to modify the control characters used according to your own pleasure. For me, the problem is now to change the 200+ occurrences of start/stopaligns distributed over dozens of files to the politically correct syntax.
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny@eglug.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> The use of & (which is a common symbol) as a control character is a long
>>> standing idiosyncrasy of TeX that I'm glad ConTeXt has got rid of.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:32:09PM -0400, Matthias Weber wrote:
>>>> Thanks - I wasn't aware that the human readable version had been deprecated :(
>>>> 
>>>> Matthias
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18-7-2012 00:22, Matthias Weber wrote:
>>>>>> \starttext
>>>>>> \startformula \startalign
>>>>>> v &= u + at \\
>>>>>> h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
>>>>>> \stopalign \stopformula
>>>>>> \stoptext
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---->>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.17 16:42 MKIV  fmt: 2012.7.17  int: english/english
>>>>>> (...)
>>>>>> ! Missing $ inserted.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> system          > tex > error on line 3 in file test.tex: Missing $ inserted ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1     \starttext
>>>>>> 2     \startformula \startalign
>>>>>> 3 >>  v &= u + at \\
>>>>>> 4     h &= ut + \frac12 gt^2 \\
>>>>>> 5     \stopalign \stopformula
>>>>>> 6     \stoptext
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks -
>>>>> 
>>>>> the context way is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> \startformula \startalign
>>>>> \NC v \NC = u + at \NR
>>>>> \NC h \NC = ut + \frac12 gt^2 \NR
>>>>> \stopalign \stopformula
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>                                       Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
>>>>>           Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
>>>>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
>>>>>                                          | www.pragma-pod.nl
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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