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From: Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>,
	mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: no looseness in LMTX?
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 14:57:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9EF99C9D-AFB5-493E-A5CE-368769A8639F@fiee.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7cd2bfc6-1ec2-a3fe-c501-4a1a431c4b28@xs4all.nl>


> Am 07.09.2021 um 14:07 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>:
> 
> On 9/7/2021 11:49 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
>> In my magazine and book projects, I sometimes fix pagebreaking by stretching paragraphs with \looseness=1
>> Unfortunately this works _in my project_ only with MkIV, i.e. \looseness has no effect with LMTX.
>> I tried different examples (e.g. the attached file) and can’t reproduce the problem, there MkIV and LMTX always behave the same.
>> So it must be something in my settings.
>> What could cause the difference?
>> I tried English and German and different settings of alignment and tolerance.
>> Might it be font dependent?
> 
> explained in manuals ...
> 
> \startlinenumbering
> \startparagraph
> Weit .. beirren.
> \stopparagraph
> \stoplinenumbering
> 
> \startlinenumbering
> \startparagraph\looseness=+2
> Weit .. beirren.
> \stopparagraph
> \stoplinenumbering
> 
> \startlinenumbering
> \startparagraph
> Weit .. beirren.
> \looseness=+2\updateparagraphproperties\stopparagraph
> \stoplinenumbering
> 
> in lmxt we freeze the properties set when a paragraph starts (contrary to using the last set value which actually fails when you set it inside a group)
> 
> so, when you change some property mid paragraph you need to update the properties in order for them to be effective (can be done for looseness only if really needed); that works independent of grouping so it's more robust

Ok, but I thought I needed to use \looseness directly at the beginning of the paragraph, since it’s forgotten after the next \par?

HR
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      reply	other threads:[~2021-09-07 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-07  9:49 Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
2021-09-07 11:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context
2021-09-07 13:13   ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
2021-09-07 13:27     ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2021-09-07 12:07 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2021-09-07 12:57   ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context [this message]

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