* pull quotes
@ 2022-04-27 6:01 jbf via ntg-context
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From: jbf via ntg-context @ 2022-04-27 6:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi list,
Back in March, Garulfo asked a question about pull quotes and offered
two links by way of example. One of the styles in those links interested
me in particular, namely
https://www.societal.fr/sites/societal/files/old_site/societal-46-6-boiteux-reperesettendances.pdf#page=2
I know how to make a pull quote in general terms, but Garulfo's question
was quite specific - was there a preferred way to set an intercolumn
pull quote, and presumably he also meant of the kind found in the link
above. I did not see any response to his question so perhaps he received
one off-list. I too would be interested to know how one might achieve
precisely the kind in the example, which features a 'bracketed' pull
quote. Has anyone attempted that?
Julian
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* Pull quotes
@ 2011-04-27 17:49 mathew
2011-04-27 18:33 ` Hans Hagen
2011-04-27 20:08 ` Pontus Lurcock
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From: mathew @ 2011-04-27 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Has anyone implemented pull quotes using ConTeXt? What would be the
best approach to take?
mathew
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* Re: Pull quotes
2011-04-27 17:49 Pull quotes mathew
@ 2011-04-27 18:33 ` Hans Hagen
2011-04-27 18:38 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-04-27 20:08 ` Pontus Lurcock
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-04-27 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 27-4-2011 7:49, mathew wrote:
> Has anyone implemented pull quotes using ConTeXt? What would be the
> best approach to take?
I have no clue what pull quotes are.
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* Re: Pull quotes
2011-04-27 17:49 Pull quotes mathew
2011-04-27 18:33 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-04-27 20:08 ` Pontus Lurcock
2011-04-28 16:27 ` mathew
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From: Pontus Lurcock @ 2011-04-27 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed 27 Apr 2011, mathew wrote:
> Has anyone implemented pull quotes using ConTeXt? What would be the
> best approach to take?
Why not just put it in a float?
Pont
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* Re: Pull quotes
2011-04-27 20:08 ` Pontus Lurcock
@ 2011-04-28 16:27 ` mathew
2011-04-28 17:16 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: mathew @ 2011-04-28 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 15:08, Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net> wrote:
> Why not just put it in a float?
OK, after some fiddling around, a combination of a framed text in a
float seems to work.
Definitions:
\definefloat[pullquote][pullquotes] % Define a new type of float
\setupcaption[pullquote][location=none] % Set it to have no captions
\defineframedtext[pullquote][frame=off] % Define a new type of framed
text with no visible frame
Usage:
\placepullquote[right]{}{
\startpullquote[width=4cm]
\tfc “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.”
\stoppullquote}
The {} in the \placepullquote is the text for the caption, which in
this case is set up to be invisible. Obviously you could use the
caption feature to cite the source of quotations.
Added to the wiki.
mathew
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* Re: Pull quotes
2011-04-28 16:27 ` mathew
@ 2011-04-28 17:16 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-04-28 19:32 ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-04-28 21:15 ` mathew
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-04-28 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 28.04.2011 um 18:27 schrieb mathew:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 15:08, Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net> wrote:
>> Why not just put it in a float?
>
> OK, after some fiddling around, a combination of a framed text in a
> float seems to work.
>
> Definitions:
>
> \definefloat[pullquote][pullquotes] % Define a new type of float
> \setupcaption[pullquote][location=none] % Set it to have no captions
> \defineframedtext[pullquote][frame=off] % Define a new type of framed
> text with no visible frame
>
> Usage:
>
> \placepullquote[right]{}{
> \startpullquote[width=4cm]
> \tfc “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.”
> \stoppullquote}
>
> The {} in the \placepullquote is the text for the caption, which in
> this case is set up to be invisible. Obviously you could use the
> caption feature to cite the source of quotations.
As do now know what you want here is a solution from me (MkIV only):
\usemodule[annotation]
\define[2]\PullquoteCommand
{\placefigure[\annotationparameter{location},none]{}%
{\framedtext
[frame=off,
width=\annotationparameter{width},
style=\annotationparameter{style}]
% {“#2”}}}
{\setupinterlinespace“#2”\par}}}
\defineannotation
[pullquote]
[alternative=command,
command=\PullquoteCommand,
location=right,
width=fit,
style=\tfc]
\starttext
\startpullquote[width=4cm]
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
\stoppullquote
\input knuth
\blank
\startpullquote[width=4cm,location=left]
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
\stoppullquote
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: Pull quotes
2011-04-28 17:16 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-04-28 19:32 ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-04-28 19:53 ` Marco
2011-04-28 21:15 ` mathew
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From: Cecil Westerhof @ 2011-04-28 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/4/28 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
> As do now know what you want here is a solution from me (MkIV only):
>
> \usemodule[annotation]
>
> \define[2]\PullquoteCommand
> {\placefigure[\annotationparameter{location},none]{}%
> {\framedtext
> [frame=off,
> width=\annotationparameter{width},
> style=\annotationparameter{style}]
> % {“#2”}}}
> {\setupinterlinespace“#2”\par}}}
>
> \defineannotation
> [pullquote]
> [alternative=command,
> command=\PullquoteCommand,
> location=right,
> width=fit,
> style=\tfc]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startpullquote[width=4cm]
> All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> \stoppullquote
>
> \input knuth
>
> \blank
>
> \startpullquote[width=4cm,location=left]
> All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> \stoppullquote
>
> \input knuth
>
> \stoptext
Looks great, but you can not use center. Would that be possible. When
using center, the quote is centered, but the text comes after the
quote. It would be nice if the text would flow around both sides of
the quote,
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Cecil Westerhof
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* Re: Pull quotes
2011-04-28 19:32 ` Cecil Westerhof
@ 2011-04-28 19:53 ` Marco
2011-04-28 20:25 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Marco @ 2011-04-28 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2011-04-28 Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks great, but you can not use center.
Sure you can.
> When using center, the quote is centered, but the text
> comes after the quote.
A feasible solution. It is eye-catching and easy to read.
> It would be nice if the text would flow around both
> sides of the quote,
Do you really think so? How would it look like? A three
column layout: text left, pull quote, text right and the
text continues in full-width?
This would mark up the text surrounding the pull quote as
somehow different than the one preceding and following the
pull quote and thus confuse the reader.
Marco
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* Re: Pull quotes
2011-04-28 19:53 ` Marco
@ 2011-04-28 20:25 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-04-28 20:56 ` Marco
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-04-28 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 28.04.2011 um 21:53 schrieb Marco:
> On 2011-04-28 Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks great, but you can not use center.
>
> Sure you can.
As the argument of the location key is just passed to \placefigure
you can use any valid placefloat keyword.
>> When using center, the quote is centered, but the text
>> comes after the quote.
>
> A feasible solution. It is eye-catching and easy to read.
And there are many ways to make it fancy: http://layersmagazine.com/indesign-paragraph-rules.html
>> It would be nice if the text would flow around both
>> sides of the quote,
>
> Do you really think so? How would it look like? A three
> column layout: text left, pull quote, text right and the
> text continues in full-width?
http://www.elijournals.com/images/articleFigures/0302/msw0321a.gif
> This would mark up the text surrounding the pull quote as
> somehow different than the one preceding and following the
> pull quote and thus confuse the reader.
I don’t think so because it’s common in magazines but TeX
isn’t the best tool for this.
• http://www.wyssdesign.com/Wyss_Design_Images/Bookprojects/Wyss_Design_Success_Spread1.jpg
• http://www.twopeaspublishing.com/assets/sample_pullquote.jpg
• http://homeforprofits.com/wp-content/uploads/wikipedia-pullquote.png
• http://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-2897250-31035/Picture+32.png
Wolfgang
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* Re: Pull quotes
2011-04-28 17:16 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-04-28 19:32 ` Cecil Westerhof
@ 2011-04-28 21:15 ` mathew
2011-04-28 21:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: mathew @ 2011-04-28 21:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:16, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
> As do now know what you want here is a solution from me (MkIV only):
Could you comment on the advantages of your solution, given its
greater complexity?
mathew
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* Re: Pull quotes
2011-04-28 21:15 ` mathew
@ 2011-04-28 21:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-04-28 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 28.04.2011 um 23:15 schrieb mathew:
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:16, Wolfgang Schuster
> <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> As do now know what you want here is a solution from me (MkIV only):
>
> Could you comment on the advantages of your solution, given its
> greater complexity?
It gives you more flexibility but my first goal was to get rid of
the \placepullquote command in the text. Another reason why i used
\defineannotation is that it creates i environment where you can
pass the argument to another command.
I could have written a shorter setup but i wanted the possibility
to change the position of the quote (e.g. “location=left”) and you
can also change the width and style of the text.
Wolfgang
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