From: "amano.kenji via ntg-context" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@freedom.nl>
Cc: "amano.kenji" <amano.kenji@proton.me>,
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Subject: Re: How can I make a Gentoo Linux package for ConTeXt LMTX?
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:56:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9eKKH8HKIJmLfMsPeWntJ7PoOB3qrSINZikxAxXbx0c3TMs0jTGZ9-mfkAyExB4LG_KgwdZ3PThaibj5MK2MKwefs8YMHMt0fWP6pg4SpXU=@proton.me> (raw)
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By the way, all POSIX-like opearting systems including BSDs and linux distributions share one way of making system packages.
For all POSIX-like operating systems, a simple Makefile can build LuaMetaTex. Since each linux distribution may have a slightly different directory structure, it would be beneficial for ConTeXt to document contextcnf.lua and where each ConTeXt directory can be installed.
I don't know much about Mac OS, but my guess is that if we take care of POSIX-like operating systems, we take care of Mac, too.
As far as I know, there is no packaging standard for windows.
Thus, you should only worry about the POSIX way in theory.
------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, August 17th, 2022 at 3:42 PM, Hans Hagen <j.hagen@freedom.nl> wrote:
> On 8/17/2022 3:09 PM, amano.kenji wrote:
>
> > * Will TexLive replace its own ConTeXt Mark IV with ConTeXt LMTX?
>
>
> at some point we will switch to lmtx and mkiv is than just there and can
> be used but basically it is frozen (already for a while, apart from fixes).
>
> > * context lmtx binary installer archive is not versioned. I can't use unversioned archives in OS packages.
>
>
> at some point (all depends on time and effort and ...) the source wil be
> part of the context distribution so then one can compile
>
> > * Is it actually possible to present a separate override file for contextcnf.lua? If not, I would need to patch contextcnf.lua, or contextcnf.lua should support both portable installation and OS-level installation.
>
>
> you can put one in texmf-local (as the mtxrun --generate i posted trace
> shows)
>
> > * Can you make it easier to make an OS package for ConTeXt LMTX by releasing versioned (source) archives, including BUILD/INSTALL instructions in the versioned archives, and so on? I wish I could just extract a versioned binary archive into certain locations or use GNU autotools or use meson build system which is far better than GNU autotools.
>
>
> there is a github repository for the tex stuff and have no experience
> with all that versioning / release / os packaging stuff (couldn't test
> it anyway and continuously adapt to teh subtle differences in
> distributions and os's) ... we just post zips (already for decades) but
> anyone is free to come up with such instructions (e.g. aditya did some
> for arch)
>
> anyway, lmtx is still kind of experimental and at some point
> installation will move to the garden (not much is needed, just a web
> server) and the packaging scripts are / will be in the distribution ..
> there are no dependencies (and we keep it that way: self contained bins)
>
> sorry, i just can't spent time on all the possible variant ways of
> installation .. that is up to volunteers
>
> > While portable installations can be great for testing bleeding edge features and keeping up with latest development, most of the time, I prefer OS package releases.
>
> I never use an os tex release .. who knows whaty has been done with it
> .. esp when one has a long term workflow (e.g. fonts can change)
>
> Hans
>
>
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2022-08-15 12:03 amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-15 12:12 ` Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
2022-08-15 12:19 ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-15 17:00 ` Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
2022-08-16 11:43 ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-16 16:02 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2022-08-17 13:09 ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-17 15:42 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
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