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From: "amano.kenji via ntg-context" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@freedom.nl>
Cc: "amano.kenji" <amano.kenji@proton.me>,
	mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: How can I make a Gentoo Linux package for ConTeXt LMTX?
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:56:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9eKKH8HKIJmLfMsPeWntJ7PoOB3qrSINZikxAxXbx0c3TMs0jTGZ9-mfkAyExB4LG_KgwdZ3PThaibj5MK2MKwefs8YMHMt0fWP6pg4SpXU=@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31267acd-415c-bad0-e232-14ab3c145ea9@freedom.nl>

By the way, all POSIX-like opearting systems including BSDs and linux distributions share one way of making system packages.

For all POSIX-like operating systems, a simple Makefile can build LuaMetaTex. Since each linux distribution may have a slightly different directory structure, it would be beneficial for ConTeXt to document contextcnf.lua and where each ConTeXt directory can be installed.

I don't know much about Mac OS, but my guess is that if we take care of POSIX-like operating systems, we take care of Mac, too.

As far as I know, there is no packaging standard for windows.

Thus, you should only worry about the POSIX way in theory.

------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, August 17th, 2022 at 3:42 PM, Hans Hagen <j.hagen@freedom.nl> wrote:


> On 8/17/2022 3:09 PM, amano.kenji wrote:
> 
> > * Will TexLive replace its own ConTeXt Mark IV with ConTeXt LMTX?
> 
> 
> at some point we will switch to lmtx and mkiv is than just there and can
> be used but basically it is frozen (already for a while, apart from fixes).
> 
> > * context lmtx binary installer archive is not versioned. I can't use unversioned archives in OS packages.
> 
> 
> at some point (all depends on time and effort and ...) the source wil be
> part of the context distribution so then one can compile
> 
> > * Is it actually possible to present a separate override file for contextcnf.lua? If not, I would need to patch contextcnf.lua, or contextcnf.lua should support both portable installation and OS-level installation.
> 
> 
> you can put one in texmf-local (as the mtxrun --generate i posted trace
> shows)
> 
> > * Can you make it easier to make an OS package for ConTeXt LMTX by releasing versioned (source) archives, including BUILD/INSTALL instructions in the versioned archives, and so on? I wish I could just extract a versioned binary archive into certain locations or use GNU autotools or use meson build system which is far better than GNU autotools.
> 
> 
> there is a github repository for the tex stuff and have no experience
> with all that versioning / release / os packaging stuff (couldn't test
> it anyway and continuously adapt to teh subtle differences in
> distributions and os's) ... we just post zips (already for decades) but
> anyone is free to come up with such instructions (e.g. aditya did some
> for arch)
> 
> anyway, lmtx is still kind of experimental and at some point
> installation will move to the garden (not much is needed, just a web
> server) and the packaging scripts are / will be in the distribution ..
> there are no dependencies (and we keep it that way: self contained bins)
> 
> sorry, i just can't spent time on all the possible variant ways of
> installation .. that is up to volunteers
> 
> > While portable installations can be great for testing bleeding edge features and keeping up with latest development, most of the time, I prefer OS package releases.
> 
> I never use an os tex release .. who knows whaty has been done with it
> .. esp when one has a long term workflow (e.g. fonts can change)
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-18 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-15 12:03 amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-15 12:12 ` Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
2022-08-15 12:19   ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-15 17:00     ` Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
2022-08-16 11:43       ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-16 16:02         ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2022-08-17 13:09           ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-17 15:42             ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2022-08-18 12:32               ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-18 12:56               ` amano.kenji via ntg-context [this message]
2022-08-18 13:16               ` Alan via ntg-context
2022-08-18 13:44                 ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-18 13:53                 ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-22 22:52                   ` Alan via ntg-context
2022-08-18 14:08                 ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-18 17:16                   ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2022-08-19 12:51                     ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-19 13:06                       ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2022-08-19 13:03                     ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-19 13:11                       ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2022-08-19 13:18                         ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-20  7:31                           ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2022-08-15 13:54   ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-15 18:46     ` Alan Braslau via ntg-context
2022-08-16 11:35       ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-21 19:13 ` Michal Vlasák via ntg-context
2022-08-22  9:41   ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-23  1:11     ` Max Chernoff via ntg-context
2022-08-23 10:15       ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-23 10:25       ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-24 20:21       ` Michal Vlasák via ntg-context
2022-08-24 21:32         ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2022-08-25  0:00           ` Michal Vlasák via ntg-context
2022-08-23 19:13     ` Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
2022-08-24 12:30       ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-15 21:56 Max Chernoff via ntg-context
2022-08-16 11:28 ` amano.kenji via ntg-context
2022-08-18  0:51 Max Chernoff via ntg-context
2022-08-18  7:31 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2022-08-18 12:00 ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context

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