From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/80582 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Keith J. 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I purposely put "paragraph" in quotes. because the environment that I = have suggest was one that had setups for bodyfont, color, indenting etc. and one can just = like the headers have control over them. Furthermore, you have stated on the on the 30th: > ConTeXt provides also a paragraph environment but this add only tags = when you export the document > as XML or create a tagged PDF. >=20 > The paragraphs (note the "s") environment has a Hans already mentioned = nothing to do with paragraphs, > it just puts the content on columns where each column can con tai = multiple paragraphs. The name > for the environment is misleading because columns is already taken as = name. Thank you anyway. I will look into creating what I need on my own. I = already have an idea. Just need to figure out the implementation. regards Keith Am 31.01.2013 um 17:24 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster = : >=20 > Am 31.01.2013 um 09:40 schrieb Keith J. Schultz = : >=20 >> It would have been nice, if ConTeXt had such an environment. I = do not know how ConTeXt processes >> things internally, but since it is a front end, ConTeXt could = have the syntactic sugar of a "paragraph"-environment. >> That is that, while parsing the source it injects groups into = the code it outputs for the paragraphs. >> This would give us then "paragraph"-layout. Naturally, this is = not a TeX way, but could be a ConTeXt way.=20 >=20 > ConTeXt *has* a paragraph environment! >=20 > \starttext >=20 > \startparagraph > This is the first paragraph. > \stopparagraph >=20 > \startparagraph > This is another paragraph. > \stopparagraph >=20 > \stoptext >=20 > Wolfgang --Apple-Mail=_949BF12A-362F-4AFE-B2A2-5B0CA8A057E6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = Wolfgang,

You do seem to understand what I am getting = at!

I purposely put "paragraph" in quotes. = because the environment that I have suggest was
one that had = setups for bodyfont, color, indenting etc. and one can just like the = headers
have control over = them.

Furthermore, you have stated on the on = the 30th:

ConTeXt provides also a paragraph = environment but this add only tags when you export the = document
as XML or create a tagged = PDF.

The paragraphs (note the "s") environment has a Hans = already mentioned nothing to do with paragraphs,
it just puts the content on columns where each column can = con tai multiple paragraphs. The name
for the = environment is misleading because columns is already taken as = name.
= Keith


Am 31.01.2013 um = 17:24 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster@gmail.com>:


Am 31.01.2013 um 09:40 schrieb Keith J. Schultz <keithjschultz@web.de>:

=
It would have been nice, if = ConTeXt had such an environment. I do not know how ConTeXt = processes
= things internally, but since it is a front end, ConTeXt could = have the syntactic sugar of a "paragraph"-environment.
That is = that, while parsing the source it injects groups into the code it = outputs for the paragraphs.
This would give us then = "paragraph"-layout. Naturally, this is not a TeX way, but could be a = ConTeXt way.

ConTeXt *has* a paragraph = environment!

\starttext

\startparagraph
This is the = first paragraph.
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph
This is = another = paragraph.
\stopparagraph

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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