* columnset issues
@ 2020-01-19 22:38 Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-01-19 22:40 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-01-19 22:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi again.
I use columnsets and wanted to setup my section titles to have one blank line before and none after them.
If I use before={\blank[line]}, I sometimes don’t get that blank line.
If I use \blank in my section command, I get it always, but also if the section starts on top of a column.
How can I reliably get one blank line before a section title, but not on the top of a column?
That’s the original problem.
The MWE also shows:
– There’s irregular space at the top of columns, esp. on the first page.
– Sometimes the multi-line section title is moved into the previous paragraph.
These issues get fixed with grid=yes.
The original problem is also fixed in the MWE if I enable grid mode, there are just sometimes two blank lines instead of one. In my actual project I get one or zero lines. Couldn’t reproduce that in a MWE.
\usemodule[visual]
\setuppapersize[A5]
\showframe[text]
\definecolor[fakerulecolor][gray]
%\setuplayout[grid=yes]
%\showgrid
\define[2]\MySection{\vbox{%
\definecolor[fakerulecolor][blue]
%\blank[line,max]%
{\strut #2}\par
}}
\setuphead[section][
command=\MySection,
before={\blank[line]},
%before=,
after=,
style=\tf,
]
\definecolumnset[Two][n=2]
\starttext
%
\startcolumnset[Two]
\dorecurse{10}{
\section{\fakewords{3}{15}}
\fakewords{10}{50}\par
\fakewords{10}{50}\par
\fakewords{10}{50}\par
}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
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* Re: columnset issues
2020-01-19 22:38 columnset issues Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2020-01-19 22:40 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-01-20 6:54 ` another columnset issue (solved) Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-01-26 12:07 ` columnset issues Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-01-19 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Am 2020-01-19 um 23:38 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
> – Sometimes the multi-line section title is moved into the previous paragraph.
> These issues get fixed with grid=yes.
BTW: If you use grid=strut, the section title is always moved up into the previous paragraph, i.e. it’s always handled like one line.
HR
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* Re: another columnset issue (solved)
2020-01-19 22:38 columnset issues Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-01-19 22:40 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2020-01-20 6:54 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-01-26 12:07 ` columnset issues Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-01-20 6:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi again,
I had the problem that my chapters always started on a left page, even if I just had page=yes.
I found out I had to set page=no in my columnset as well as in \setuphead[chapter].
Seems like either the columnset or the columnsetspan always starts a new page.
While testing I didn’t get a new page reliably, but I can’t reproduce it anymore.
So, this works so far.
I’m starting a new columnset for every chapter because I have chapters with 1-3 columns,
the example is a simplification.
HR
\usemodule[visual]
\setuppapersize[A5]
\showframe[text]
\definecolor[fakerulecolor][gray]
\setuplayout[
grid=yes,
]
\showgrid
\setuphead[chapter][
page=no,
beforesection={\startcolumnset[Two]},
aftersection={\stopcolumnset},
before={\startcolumnsetspan[TwoSpan]},
after={\stopcolumnsetspan},
]
\definecolumnset[Two][
n=2,
page=no,
]
\definecolumnsetspan[TwoSpan][n=2]
\starttext
\dorecurse{3}{
\startchapter{\fakewords{2}{5}}
\dorecurse{3}{
\section{\fakewords{3}{10}}
\fakewords{10}{50}\par
\fakewords{10}{50}\par
}
\stopchapter
}
\stoptext
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* Re: columnset issues
2020-01-19 22:38 columnset issues Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-01-19 22:40 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-01-20 6:54 ` another columnset issue (solved) Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2020-01-26 12:07 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-01-27 9:31 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-01-26 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Another set of columnset issues: columnset areas
(1)
In the columnsets manual, there’s a type key or a second optional parameter to \definecolumnsetarea that’s actually missing (commented code in page-cst.mkiv).
The manual doesn’t explain the setup keys; I assume x/nx is in columns, y/ny is in lines, while x/y is the start and nx/ny the size.
(2)
Since float placement doesn’t work like I need it (must make another MWE to better nail it), I thought I’d try columnset areas for the placement of ads:
\usemodule[visual]
\useMPlibrary[dum]
\definecolor[fakerulecolor][gray]
\setuplayout[
grid=yes,
]
\showframe[text]
\showgrid
\definecolumnset[Two][
n=2,
page=no,
]
\definecolumnsetarea[AdSpace][
x=1,y=20,
nx=1,ny=20,
state=stop
]
\starttext
\startcolumnset[Two]
\fakewords{20}{30}
\setupcolumnsetareatext[AdSpace]{\externalfigure[MyAd][width=\textwidth,height=0.45\textheight]}
\setupcolumnsetarea[AdSpace][state=start]
\fakewords{200}{200}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
The "AdSpace" should cover the lower left quarter of the page, y=20 should start it in line 20, and ny=20 should make it 20 lines high, right?
But "MyAd" appears always at the place where I put \setupcolumnsetareatext.
Is this an error on my side, or is the code just incomplete/buggy/not ready?
Greetlings, Hraban
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* Re: columnset issues
2020-01-26 12:07 ` columnset issues Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2020-01-27 9:31 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-01-27 19:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-01-27 9:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Am 2020-01-26 um 13:07 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>
> I thought I’d try columnset areas for the placement of ads:
This MWE shows better what’s going on:
The "area" space is reserved as requested, but its contents get placed elsewhere.
\usemodule[visual]
\useMPlibrary[dum]
\definecolor[fakerulecolor][gray]
\setuplayout[
grid=yes,
]
\showframe[text]
\showgrid
\definecolumnset[Two][
n=2,
page=no,
]
%\definecolumnsetspan[TwoSpan][n=2]
\definecolumnsetarea[AdSpace][
x=1,y=21,
nx=1,ny=21,
state=stop,
frame=on,
framecolor=magenta,
]
\starttext
\startcolumnset[Two]
\dorecurse{10}{\fakewords{100}{120}\par}
\setupcolumnsetarea[AdSpace][state=start]
\setupcolumnsetareatext[AdSpace]{\externalfigure[MyAd][width=\textwidth,height=0.45\textheight]}
\fakewords{200}{200}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
HR
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* Re: columnset issues
2020-01-27 9:31 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2020-01-27 19:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2020-01-27 22:22 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-01-27 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Henning Hraban Ramm
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 27.01.2020 um 10:31:
>> Am 2020-01-26 um 13:07 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>>
>> I thought I’d try columnset areas for the placement of ads:
> This MWE shows better what’s going on:
> The "area" space is reserved as requested, but its contents get placed elsewhere.
>
>
> \usemodule[visual]
> \useMPlibrary[dum]
> \definecolor[fakerulecolor][gray]
> \setuplayout[
> grid=yes,
> ]
> \showframe[text]
> \showgrid
>
> \definecolumnset[Two][
> n=2,
> page=no,
> ]
> %\definecolumnsetspan[TwoSpan][n=2]
> \definecolumnsetarea[AdSpace][
> x=1,y=21,
> nx=1,ny=21,
> state=stop,
> frame=on,
> framecolor=magenta,
> ]
>
>
> \starttext
> \startcolumnset[Two]
>
> \dorecurse{10}{\fakewords{100}{120}\par}
>
> \setupcolumnsetarea[AdSpace][state=start]
> \setupcolumnsetareatext[AdSpace]{\externalfigure[MyAd][width=\textwidth,height=0.45\textheight]}
You need brackets for both argument, i.e.
\setupcolumnsetareatext[...][...] but even then your example only works
when I place the areatext before \startcolumnset.
Wolfgang
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* Re: columnset issues
2020-01-27 19:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2020-01-27 22:22 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-01-27 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Am 2020-01-27 um 20:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>:
>
> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 27.01.2020 um 10:31:
>>> Am 2020-01-26 um 13:07 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>>>
>>> I thought I’d try columnset areas for the placement of ads:
>> This MWE shows better what’s going on:
>> The "area" space is reserved as requested, but its contents get placed elsewhere.
>>
>>
>> \usemodule[visual]
>> \useMPlibrary[dum]
>> \definecolor[fakerulecolor][gray]
>> \setuplayout[
>> grid=yes,
>> ]
>> \showframe[text]
>> \showgrid
>>
>> \definecolumnset[Two][
>> n=2,
>> page=no,
>> ]
>> %\definecolumnsetspan[TwoSpan][n=2]
>> \definecolumnsetarea[AdSpace][
>> x=1,y=21,
>> nx=1,ny=21,
>> state=stop,
>> frame=on,
>> framecolor=magenta,
>> ]
>>
>>
>> \starttext
>> \startcolumnset[Two]
>>
>> \dorecurse{10}{\fakewords{100}{120}\par}
>>
>> \setupcolumnsetarea[AdSpace][state=start]
>> \setupcolumnsetareatext[AdSpace]{\externalfigure[MyAd][width=\textwidth,height=0.45\textheight]}
>
> You need brackets for both argument, i.e. \setupcolumnsetareatext[...][...] but even then your example only works when I place the areatext before \startcolumnset.
Ah, thank you!
But even if I put the commands before \startcolumnset, the "AdSpace" appears on the second page. While this was the intention of the example, it seems like I can’t control on which page my ads/images appear.
In my actual project, all the defined columnsetareas show up on the second page (where the first columnset starts), even though all have state=stop, and never show up again where I set state=start.
I wanted to use it like
\define[2]\Anzeige{%
\setupcolumnsetareatext[ad#1][{\externalfigure[#2][width=\overlaywidth]}]
\setupcolumnsetarea[ad#1][state=start]
}
I also tried to just reserve the space with columnsetareas and place the ads with \setlayer; that would work if I could control the placement of the areas...
Since I must complete this project within this week, I already started from scratch in my layout program (switched from my old InDesign to Affinity Publisher – much cheaper but even less fun). Seems like I overestimated ConTeXt’s (and my) readiness for this kind of layout. A pity.
Greetlings, Hraban
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