itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Gerben Wierda]

I’d like to get \startitemize\stopitemize to indent the first level items already with the equal amount of indentation as the start of a paragraph (which is indented). Is there a way to do that?

mkii

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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 19.08.2014 um 16:27 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:

> I’d like to get \startitemize\stopitemize to indent the first level items already with the equal amount of indentation as the start of a paragraph (which is indented). Is there a way to do that?

\setupindenting[yes,medium]

\starttext

\input knuth

\startitemize[margin=standard]
\item \input ward
\stopitemize

\input tufte

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Gerben Wierda]

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On 19 Aug 2014, at 16:33, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Am 19.08.2014 um 16:27 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
> 
>> I’d like to get \startitemize\stopitemize to indent the first level items already with the equal amount of indentation as the start of a paragraph (which is indented). Is there a way to do that?
> 
> \setupindenting[yes,medium]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \input knuth
> 
> \startitemize[margin=standard]

Does the margin thing, but incapacitates packed and joinedup, which are ignored if the margin statement is there. So, I get indented items, but at the price of losing joinedup and packed.

\setupindenting[yes,medium]

\starttext
Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. 
\startitemize[joinedup,packed]
\item Foo bar
\item Foo bar
\stopitemize
Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. 

Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. 
\startitemize[joinedup,packed,margin=standard]
\item Foo bar
\item Foo bar
\stopitemize
Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. 
\stoptext


G

> \item \input ward
> \stopitemize
> 
> \input tufte
> 
> \stoptext
> 
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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2014, Gerben Wierda wrote:

> On 19 Aug 2014, at 16:33, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 19.08.2014 um 16:27 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>>
>>> I’d like to get \startitemize\stopitemize to indent the first level items already with the equal amount of indentation as the start of a paragraph (which is indented). Is there a way to do that?
>>
>> \setupindenting[yes,medium]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \input knuth
>>
>> \startitemize[margin=standard]
>
> Does the margin thing, but incapacitates packed and joinedup, which are ignored if the margin statement is there. So, I get indented items, but at the price of losing joinedup and packed.
>
> \setupindenting[yes,medium]
>
> \starttext
> Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo.
> \startitemize[joinedup,packed]
> \item Foo bar
> \item Foo bar
> \stopitemize
> Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo.
>
> Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo.
> \startitemize[joinedup,packed,margin=standard]

You need to separate keywords with assignments:

\startitemize[joinedup, packed][margin=standard]

Aditya

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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Gerben Wierda]

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On 20 Aug 2014, at 01:22, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2014, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> 
>> On 19 Aug 2014, at 16:33, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 19.08.2014 um 16:27 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>>> 
>>>> I’d like to get \startitemize\stopitemize to indent the first level items already with the equal amount of indentation as the start of a paragraph (which is indented). Is there a way to do that?
>>> 
>>> \setupindenting[yes,medium]
>>> 
>>> \starttext
>>> 
>>> \input knuth
>>> 
>>> \startitemize[margin=standard]
>> 
>> Does the margin thing, but incapacitates packed and joinedup, which are ignored if the margin statement is there. So, I get indented items, but at the price of losing joinedup and packed.
>> 
>> \setupindenting[yes,medium]
>> 
>> \starttext
>> Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo.
>> \startitemize[joinedup,packed]
>> \item Foo bar
>> \item Foo bar
>> \stopitemize
>> Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo.
>> 
>> Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo. Foo bar bar foo.
>> \startitemize[joinedup,packed,margin=standard]
> 
> You need to separate keywords with assignments:
> 
> \startitemize[joinedup, packed][margin=standard]

Thanks. I used

\setupitemize[each][margin=standard]

and this works. However, I've noticed that the normal pararaph indent is just a little bit more than the itemize margin. The bullets of the list are not aligned perfectly with the indented line. They are indented slightly less. Anything I can do about that?

G


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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 20.08.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:

> Thanks. I used
> 
> \setupitemize[each][margin=standard]
> 
> and this works. However, I've noticed that the normal pararaph indent is just a little bit more than the itemize margin. The bullets of the list are not aligned perfectly with the indented line. They are indented slightly less. Anything I can do about that?

Are you sure?

\setupindenting[yes,medium]

\definelayer[check][width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]

\setlayer[check][x=\dimexpr\backspace+1.5em\relax]{\blackrule[width=\linewidth,height=\paperheight]}

\setupbackgrounds[page][background=check]

\starttext

\input knuth

\startitemize[margin=standard]
\item \input ward
\stopitemize

\input tufte

\stoptext

Wolfgang


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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Gerben Wierda]

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On 20 Aug 2014, at 17:23, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Am 20.08.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
> 
>> Thanks. I used
>> 
>> \setupitemize[each][margin=standard]
>> 
>> and this works. However, I've noticed that the normal pararaph indent is just a little bit more than the itemize margin. The bullets of the list are not aligned perfectly with the indented line. They are indented slightly less. Anything I can do about that?
> 
> Are you sure?

Yes:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59305058/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-20%20at%2020%20August%2017.30.37.png

Your example works out fine.

G


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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 20.08.2014 um 17:32 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:

> 
> On 20 Aug 2014, at 17:23, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Am 20.08.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>> 
>>> Thanks. I used
>>> 
>>> \setupitemize[each][margin=standard]
>>> 
>>> and this works. However, I've noticed that the normal pararaph indent is just a little bit more than the itemize margin. The bullets of the list are not aligned perfectly with the indented line. They are indented slightly less. Anything I can do about that?
>> 
>> Are you sure?
> 
> Yes:
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59305058/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-20%20at%2020%20August%2017.30.37.png

Make a *working* minimal example.

Wolfgang


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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Gerben Wierda]

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On 20 Aug 2014, at 17:34, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Am 20.08.2014 um 17:32 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
> 
>> 
>> On 20 Aug 2014, at 17:23, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 20.08.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks. I used
>>>> 
>>>> \setupitemize[each][margin=standard]
>>>> 
>>>> and this works. However, I've noticed that the normal pararaph indent is just a little bit more than the itemize margin. The bullets of the list are not aligned perfectly with the indented line. They are indented slightly less. Anything I can do about that?
>>> 
>>> Are you sure?
>> 
>> Yes:
>> 
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59305058/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-20%20at%2020%20August%2017.30.37.png
> 
> Make a *working* minimal example.

Having that part in a smaller bodyfont is what triggers it:

\starttext
\setupbodyfont[12pt]

\setupindenting[small]
\indenting[yes]
\setupitemize[each][margin=standard]

\start
\switchtobodyfont[8pt]

Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo
foo bar.
(PSA) becomes the Project Architecture (PA). As of that moment:
\startitemize[joinedup,packed]
\item Foo
\item Foo
\item Foo
\item Foo
\stopitemize

Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo
foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar.
Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo
foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar.
Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar. Bar foo foo bar.

\stop
\stoptext

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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 20.08.2014 um 17:53 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:

> 
> On 20 Aug 2014, at 17:34, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Am 20.08.2014 um 17:32 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 20 Aug 2014, at 17:23, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 20.08.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks. I used
>>>>> 
>>>>> \setupitemize[each][margin=standard]
>>>>> 
>>>>> and this works. However, I've noticed that the normal pararaph indent is just a little bit more than the itemize margin. The bullets of the list are not aligned perfectly with the indented line. They are indented slightly less. Anything I can do about that?
>>>> 
>>>> Are you sure?
>>> 
>>> Yes:
>>> 
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59305058/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-20%20at%2020%20August%2017.30.37.png
>> 
>> Make a *working* minimal example.
> 
> Having that part in a smaller bodyfont is what triggers it:
> 
> \starttext
> \setupbodyfont[12pt]
> 
> \setupindenting[small]
> \indenting[yes]

Don’t use \indenting, it’s a old command with the same meaning as \setupindenting.

> \setupitemize[each][margin=standard]

You ned absolute values for indentation and margin, e.g.

\setupindenting[yes,5mm]
\setupitemize[each][margin=5mm]

Wolfgang


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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Gerben Wierda]

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On 20 Aug 2014, at 18:01, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Am 20.08.2014 um 17:53 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
> 
>> 
>> On 20 Aug 2014, at 17:34, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 20.08.2014 um 17:32 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 20 Aug 2014, at 17:23, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 20.08.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks. I used
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> \setupitemize[each][margin=standard]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and this works. However, I've noticed that the normal pararaph indent is just a little bit more than the itemize margin. The bullets of the list are not aligned perfectly with the indented line. They are indented slightly less. Anything I can do about that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you sure?
>>>> 
>>>> Yes:
>>>> 
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59305058/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-20%20at%2020%20August%2017.30.37.png
>>> 
>>> Make a *working* minimal example.
>> 
>> Having that part in a smaller bodyfont is what triggers it:
>> 
>> \starttext
>> \setupbodyfont[12pt]
>> 
>> \setupindenting[small]
>> \indenting[yes]
> 
> Don’t use \indenting, it’s a old command with the same meaning as \setupindenting.
> 
>> \setupitemize[each][margin=standard]
> 
> You ned absolute values for indentation and margin, e.g.
> 
> \setupindenting[yes,5mm]
> \setupitemize[each][margin=5mm]

Works ok at first level. Second level doesn't exactly align. But there is some startstopnarrower in play too. I'l try to create a minimal example.

> 
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Re: itemize: how to get the first level items indented?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 20.08.2014 um 19:01 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:

> Works ok at first level. Second level doesn't exactly align. But there is some startstopnarrower in play too. I'l try to create a minimal example.

The narrower environment does also use font dependent values for the left and right margins.

A good method to set a global value for all environments is to set the dimension with the
\definemeasure command and access it with the \measure command.

% engine=pdftex

\definemeasure[myindent][12pt]

\setupindenting[yes,\measure{myindent}]

\setupnarrower
  [  left=\measure{myindent},
    right=\measure{myindent},
   middle=\measure{myindent}]

\setupitemize[each][margin=\measure{myindent}]%,width=\measure{myindent}]

\starttext

\input knuth

\startitemize
\item \input ward
\stopitemize

\startnarrower
\input zapf
\stopnarrower

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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