From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/77241 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Meer, H. van der" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: setupbars Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 07:09:49 +0000 Message-ID: References: <8809129F-6B53-4376-A164-BD56C9E30A10@uva.nl> <8155A316-76DE-469A-92A9-AA427F7E1B22@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_004_A4DF50DBF8E34040AFFFA16F3DB975A0uvanl_" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341817801 29087 80.91.229.3 (9 Jul 2012 07:10:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 07:10:01 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Jul 09 09:10:01 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1So86a-0001Pz-28 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 09:10:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959E41020B; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:09:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 2aSKkqPfuVMW; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:09:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A8A101E7; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:09:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B757D101E7 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:09:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 36v383QhVdCP for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:09:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C63101E1 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:09:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from HUB02.uva.nl (hub02.uva.nl [146.50.108.231]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q6979ogd020030 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:09:50 +0200 Original-Received: from bijvoet.uva.nl (146.50.108.241) by HUB02.uva.nl (146.50.108.231) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:09:49 +0200 Original-Received: from SNELDERS.uva.nl ([fe80::38a4:b0d2:dd9b:541]) by bijvoet.uva.nl ([::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:09:49 +0200 Thread-Topic: [NTG-context] setupbars Thread-Index: AQHNXUelCP7POetbh0Wf/kiH5LXVtJcfuMMAgAAPn4CAAJ8vgA== In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [82.95.102.36] X-Bayes-Prob: 0.4191 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=146.50.108.231; country=NL; region=07; city=Amsterdam; latitude=52.3500; longitude=4.9167; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.3500,4.9167&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03Hw79Oz1 - 164be52683bb - 20120709 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.71 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:77241 Archived-At: --_004_A4DF50DBF8E34040AFFFA16F3DB975A0uvanl_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A4DF50DBF8E34040AFFFA16F3DB975A0uvanl_" --_000_A4DF50DBF8E34040AFFFA16F3DB975A0uvanl_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is still an issue here. \setupbars[unit=3Dmm,rulethickness=3D1] AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf \setupbars[unit=3Dex,rulethickness=3D1] AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf \setupbars[unit=3Dpt,rulethickness=3D1] AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf The first and third setup do not give an underbar, the second does. Question: why does "ex" qualify as a dimension unit but "pt" and "mm" do no= t? Sounds strange. If I want an underbar exactly 1mm or 3pt's thick, why isn't that made possi= ble? Doing the math myself is no option, becaus ex will not be known before= hand. Hans van der Meer On 8 jul. 2012, at 23:40, Meer, H. van der wrote: Thansk, I see. \setupbars doesn't give a hit on ConTeXt-wiki, so I couldn't find th= is. Still I dare say, it is a pity that [rulethickness=3D] gets a different mea= ning here than elsewhere. I would like to ask to reconsider, because I stro= ngly believe in consistency in the API (though I am ready to admit that it = is not easy to maintain and confess guilty myself at more than one occasion= ). That is either change all rulethickness's everywhere to this scheme or o= therwise. Or did this already happened and did I miss that? And of course, = the easiest solution would be if the code itself could sort out the differe= nce between having been given a fraction or a length. Hans van der Meer On 8 jul. 2012, at 22:44, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 08.07.2012 um 22:24 schrieb Meer, H. van der: This gives an error: \starttext \setupbars[rulethickness=3D4pt] \stoptext ! LuaTeX error
:1: malformed number near '4pt'. ConTeXt ver: 2012.07.04 23:48 MKIV fmt: 2012.7.6 int: english/english Elsewhere this is ok, as for example in: \framed[rulethickness=3D4pt]{} Strangely in node-rul.mkiv I see: \c!rulethickness=3D2.5 whereas in pack-rul.mkiv: \c!rulethickness=3D\linewidth I am inclined to spot an error here, or at least an inconsistency in the AP= I. \setupbars[rulethickness=3D0.5] \starttext \setupbars[unit=3Dex]\underbar{ex} \setupbars[unit=3Dem]\underbar{em} \stoptext Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.n= l/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex= .aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.n= l/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ --_000_A4DF50DBF8E34040AFFFA16F3DB975A0uvanl_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is still an issue here.

\setupbars[unit=3Dmm,rulethickness=3D1]
AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf
\setupbars[unit=3Dex,rulethickness=3D1]
AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf
\setupbars[unit=3Dpt,rulethickness=3D1]
AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf

The first and third setup do not give an underbar, the second does.
Question: why does "ex" qualify as a dimension unit but &quo= t;pt" and "mm" do not? Sounds strange.

If I want an underbar exactly 1mm or 3pt's thick, why isn't that made = possible? Doing the math myself is no option, becaus ex will not be known b= eforehand.

Hans van der Meer


On 8 jul. 2012, at 23:40, Meer, H. van der wrote:

Thansk,

I see. \setupbars doesn't give a hit on ConTeXt-wiki, so I couldn't fi= nd this.
Still I dare say, it is a pity that [rulethickness=3D] gets a differen= t meaning here than elsewhere. I would like to ask to reconsider, because I= strongly believe in consistency in the API (though I am ready to admit tha= t it is not easy to maintain and confess guilty myself at more than one occasion). That is either change all ruleth= ickness's everywhere to this scheme or otherwise. Or did this already happe= ned and did I miss that? And of course, the easiest solution would be if th= e code itself could sort out the difference between having been given a fraction or a length.

Hans van der Meer



On 8 jul. 2012, at 22:44, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 08.07.2012 um 22:24 schrieb Meer, H. van der:

This gives an error:

\starttext
\setupbars[rulethickness=3D4pt]
\stoptext

! LuaTeX error <main ctx instance>:1: malfo= rmed number near '4pt'.
ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.04 23:48 MKIV  fm= t: 2012.7.6  int: english/english

Elsewhere this is ok, as for example in: \framed[= rulethickness=3D4pt]{}
Strangely in node-rul.mkiv I see: \c!rulethicknes= s=3D2.5
whereas in pack-rul.mkiv:  \c!rulethickness= =3D\linewidth

I am inclined to spot an error here, or at least = an inconsistency in the API.


\setupbars[rulethickness=3D0.5]

\starttext

\setupbars[unit=3Dex]\underbar{ex}

\setupbars[unit=3Dem]\underbar{em}

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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