* delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
@ 2011-01-20 16:04 Oliver Heins
2011-01-20 17:20 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Oliver Heins @ 2011-01-20 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
I want to have both a halfline space before and after blockquotations.
Normally, this works fine; after the quotation the main text snaps
back to the grid (see page 3 of the example file).
\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[spacebefore=halfline]
However, this fails when the blockquote is the first element on the
page, either because a new blockquote starts on the top of the page
(cf. p. 1) or because a blockquote continues from the last page
(cf. p. 2). Is it possible to tell ConTeXt to insert a halfline of
space on the top of the page in these cases?
TIA,
olli
\setuppapersize[a5][A4]
\setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on,grid=yes]
\setupbodyfont[14pt]
\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[spacebefore=halfline]
\showgrid
\starttext
\startblockquote
\input tufte
\stopblockquote
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte}
\startblockquote
\input tufte
\stopblockquote
\dorecurse{3}{\input tufte}
\startblockquote
\input tufte
\stopblockquote
\input tufte
\stoptext
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2011-01-20 16:04 delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid Oliver Heins
@ 2011-01-20 17:20 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-01-20 20:05 ` Oliver Heins
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-01-20 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 20.01.2011 um 17:04 schrieb Oliver Heins:
> Hello,
>
> I want to have both a halfline space before and after blockquotations.
> Normally, this works fine; after the quotation the main text snaps
> back to the grid (see page 3 of the example file).
>
> \setupdelimitedtext
> [blockquote]
> [spacebefore=halfline]
spacebefore={force,halfline}
> […]
>
> \setuppapersize[a5][A4]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]
Wolfgang
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2011-01-20 17:20 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-01-20 20:05 ` Oliver Heins
2011-01-23 18:18 ` Oliver Buerschaper
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From: Oliver Heins @ 2011-01-20 20:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> writes:
> Am 20.01.2011 um 17:04 schrieb Oliver Heins:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to have both a halfline space before and after blockquotations.
>> Normally, this works fine; after the quotation the main text snaps
>> back to the grid (see page 3 of the example file).
>>
>> \setupdelimitedtext
>> [blockquote]
>> [spacebefore=halfline]
>
> spacebefore={force,halfline}
Hello Wolfgang, thank you for your answer. Sadly, your solution only
works for blockquotes starting at the top of the page. When blockquotes
are broken up between two pages the main text doesn't find its way back
to the grid (see page 2 of my minimal example).
Another point is: The space inserted at the top of the page is not a
half line big but of one and a half line.
>> […]
>>
>> \setuppapersize[a5][A4]
>
> \setuppapersize[A5][A4]
Thanks, it was a typo. I already wondered about how huge an A5-sized
page in ConTeXt is :) However, the setup of my minimal example
illustrates the problems best on A4, so *here* it should read either
\setuppapersize[A4] or nothing (since A4 seems to be the default
anyway).
Best regards,
olli
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* Re: delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
2011-01-20 20:05 ` Oliver Heins
@ 2011-01-23 18:18 ` Oliver Buerschaper
2011-02-12 7:47 ` Oliver Buerschaper
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From: Oliver Buerschaper @ 2011-01-23 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>>> I want to have both a halfline space before and after blockquotations.
>>> Normally, this works fine; after the quotation the main text snaps
>>> back to the grid (see page 3 of the example file).
>>>
>>> \setupdelimitedtext
>>> [blockquote]
>>> [spacebefore=halfline]
>>
>> spacebefore={force,halfline}
>
> Hello Wolfgang, thank you for your answer. Sadly, your solution only
> works for blockquotes starting at the top of the page. When blockquotes
> are broken up between two pages the main text doesn't find its way back
> to the grid (see page 2 of my minimal example).
I think I've discovered another little problem of the same sort if directly after the quotation a blank line is requested:
---
\setuplayout
[grid=yes]
\setupdelimitedtext
[quotation]
[spacebefore=halfline]
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\startquotation
\input tufte
\stopquotation
\blank
\input tufte
\stoptext
---
Unfortunately the trailing main text doesn't align with the grid either. Any solution to both problems?
Best wishes,
Oliver
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2011-01-23 18:18 ` Oliver Buerschaper
@ 2011-02-12 7:47 ` Oliver Buerschaper
2011-02-12 17:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Oliver Buerschaper @ 2011-02-12 7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>>>> I want to have both a halfline space before and after blockquotations.
>>>> Normally, this works fine; after the quotation the main text snaps
>>>> back to the grid (see page 3 of the example file).
>>>>
>>>> \setupdelimitedtext
>>>> [blockquote]
>>>> [spacebefore=halfline]
>>>
>>> spacebefore={force,halfline}
>>
>> Hello Wolfgang, thank you for your answer. Sadly, your solution only
>> works for blockquotes starting at the top of the page. When blockquotes
>> are broken up between two pages the main text doesn't find its way back
>> to the grid (see page 2 of my minimal example).
>
> I think I've discovered another little problem of the same sort if directly after the quotation a blank line is requested:
>
> ---
> \setuplayout
> [grid=yes]
>
> \setupdelimitedtext
> [quotation]
> [spacebefore=halfline]
>
> \showgrid
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>
> \startquotation
> \input tufte
> \stopquotation
>
> \blank
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
> ---
>
> Unfortunately the trailing main text doesn't align with the grid either. Any solution to both problems?
Just wanted to ask whether anyone has looked into these issues… a solution would be much appreciated (and put to immediate use in a current project ;-)
Oliver
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2011-02-12 7:47 ` Oliver Buerschaper
@ 2011-02-12 17:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-02-14 11:20 ` Oliver Buerschaper
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-02-12 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 12.02.2011 um 08:47 schrieb Oliver Buerschaper:
> Just wanted to ask whether anyone has looked into these issues… a solution would be much appreciated (and put to immediate use in a current project ;-)
Not sure if there are side effects but this works (requires mkiv and a recent installation):
\setuplayout[grid=yes]\showgrid
\setupbodyfont[14pt]
\usemodule[annotation]
\define[2]\ZitatCommand
{\topskip\dimexpr\topskip+\lineheight/2\relax
\startnarrower
“#2”%
\stopnarrower}
\defineannotation
[zitat]
[alternative=command,
command=\ZitatCommand,
spacebefore=halfline,
spaceafter=halfline]
\starttext
\startzitat
\input tufte
\stopzitat
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte\par}
\startzitat
\input tufte
\stopzitat
\dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}
\startzitat
\input tufte
\stopzitat
\input tufte
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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2011-02-12 17:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-02-14 11:20 ` Oliver Buerschaper
2011-02-14 13:51 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Oliver Buerschaper @ 2011-02-14 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Not sure if there are side effects but this works (requires mkiv and a recent installation):
>
> \setuplayout[grid=yes]\showgrid
> \setupbodyfont[14pt]
>
> \usemodule[annotation]
>
> \define[2]\ZitatCommand
> {\topskip\dimexpr\topskip+\lineheight/2\relax
> \startnarrower
> “#2”%
> \stopnarrower}
>
> \defineannotation
> [zitat]
> [alternative=command,
> command=\ZitatCommand,
> spacebefore=halfline,
> spaceafter=halfline]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startzitat
> \input tufte
> \stopzitat
>
> \dorecurse{2}{\input tufte\par}
>
> \startzitat
> \input tufte
> \stopzitat
>
> \dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}
>
> \startzitat
> \input tufte
> \stopzitat
>
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
Indeed, this solves the grid issue for block quotations broken across pages. Many thanks!
Unfortunately introducing a "\blank" just before the last "\input tufte" in the above example breaks grid alignment.
Oliver
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